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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He should build a sub to go to the bottom of the ocean.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And take Elon Musk with him

[–] lurch 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they'll never do that, but maybe a spaceship shaped like a giant penis could do the trick

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Give it exactly 420.69 lb of rocket fuel and fire it into the sun

[–] lurch 3 points 7 months ago

If they hesitate, we just tell them there are neither poor people, nor taxes in space 😜

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

And skimp on materials, build it out of carbon fiber instead of titanium or steel.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Building a metaverse that people want to actually engage with was too hard, so he's decided to scale back his ambitions and tackle something less difficult: AGI.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

He just want some virtual friends to hang out with in the metaverse, since humans weren't interested.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That whole laughable expedition stinks of financial fraud

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Is Zuckerberg an idiot? Or does he have an actual plan with this?
Seems to me it's completely useless like Metaverse.
If the LLM is so stupid it can't figure out the sides of an equal sign can be reversed as simple as in 2+2=4 <=> 4=2+2. He will never achieve general intelligence by just throwing more compute power at it.
As powerful as LLM is, it's still astoundingly stupid when it hits its limitations.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Humans are astoundigly stupid when they hit their limitations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Spoken like a true AI!!!! ;-)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The difference is that we can go beyond that limitation. Even self-coding AI will either solve a problem, or compound its own inefficiencies before asking an operator to help out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your post sounds almost as dense as:

"everything that can be invented has been invented." - Duell 1899.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The difference here is that Zuck is not planning on inventing or revolutionizing anything. He’s just throwing more computation power at an already inefficient method of modeling AI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

or compound its own inefficiencies before asking an operator to help out.

Some people do. Some people refuse to ask for help.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't know much, but from what I know, we still haven't reach a point of diminishing returns, so more power = more better.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is a lot of theoretical work on this problem, but I'm in the camp that isn't convinced large language models are the path towards general intelligence.

Throw 10x the computing power on it and it might learn that a maths equation is reversible, because it will probably have seen enough examples of that. But it won't learn what an equation represents, and therefore won't extrapolate situations that can be solved by equations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You can already ask ChatGPT to model a real life scenario with a simple math equation. There is at least a rough model of how basic math can be used to solve problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Not necessarily since you also need better techniques. A competitor could easily surpass you with less by being smarter about how the AI is trained.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Trying to achieve AGI by throwing more compute at LLMs is like trying to reach the moon by building a more powerful hot air balloon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Assuming that "not compute" should be "more compute" I totally agree. That's a very apt analogy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, thanks, swipe typing picked up "not" instead of "more". Maybe someone can throw some more compute at the swipe typing algorithm to better pick up on the context of the sentence when picking words.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Zuckerberg: Why are my pupils vertical slits? Why am I always cold? Why do people find me so repellent?

AI: Sir, I can answer all three with one response, but you won't like it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Sure, we could point to thousands of years of really smart people trying and utterly failing to build mathematical models for innovation and thought, but it also does make a certain amount of sense that, if you pile up enough transistors and wish really hard, that your investment will Frosty the Snowman itself into being your friend, right...?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I wonder if he really thinks that AGI is just AI with more parameters and gpus thrown into the mix.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Iirc the h100s are $30k per gpu at this time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I’m sure he’d get a hefty discount on 350k of them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Retail price of $10,500,000,000. That's nuts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Still less than Musk paid for Twitter. It's totally reasonable from a biggest-billionaire-toy entry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

This is why they can't stop harvesting your data.