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Yeah, it's almost like the majority of domestic terrorists are maga/right wingers or something like that.
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/right-wing-extremist-terrorism-united-states
Don't like being on government lists for stupid shit that would otherwise be fine? Maybe stop being so violent.
Okay, reading the adl article, so 67 attacks in 5 years. Not a small number. I don't agree with the notion of pre-crime or collective punishment, but let's at least entertain the idea.
Lets see what they count as an attack.
Oh look, literally the first one:
Edward Kelley of Maryville, Tennessee, and Austin Carter of Knoxville, Tennessee, were arrested in mid-December 2022 by FBI agents on conspiracy charges for an alleged plot to kill 37 law enforcement officers, including FBI agents who were investigating Kelley for his role in the January 6, 2021, Capitol storming in Washington, D.C. The pair also allegedly plotted to attack the local FBI office in Knoxville.
They didn't do anything, literally just alleged crime-think. That's not an attack, not technically or in spirit. It should not be counted. Keep an eye on them if the cops truly think it's an issue, but they haven't actually done anything.
This shit is what I'm talking about when I say the news shouldn't be trusted.
I also love the fact that their "Policy Recommendations" includes blatant first amendment violations. I don't think they could have made it more obvious if they tried.
I don’t agree with the notion of pre-crime or collective punishment
Keeping an eye out for potential criminals isn't either of those things.
They didn’t do anything, literally just alleged crime-think. That’s not an attack, not technically or in spirit. It should not be counted.
It wasn't just a thought. It was a criminal planning to do another crime. He was planning on killing the people investigating him. I have no sympathy for criminals who plan on doing more crime, making credible threats and plans to kill people. He can get fucked for all I care.
If you think that solicitation to commit a violent crime and threatening an officer of the law isn't criminal, then you should take it up with the legislature.
Not all terrorism is physical. Not all violence is physical. So your statements saying he didn't do anything are just plain wrong. He was already a criminal when he was making these plans, so his threats and plans were credible. So the government took action, as they should.
Even at best, all you're arguing is that they are mischaracterizing the nature of what's going on. But regardless of how you categorize it, domestic right wing terrorism is the biggest terrorism threat to the U.S.
The government trying to keep an eye on it is for the better.
Lmao you lost the argument when you cited the Defamation league as your source
Y'all really seem to hate jews for some reason
🤔
But anyways, good job of making an ad hominem.
Just making up insane lies about me doesn't make you right
No, the statistics does. Even if you think the ADL is wrong because you hate jews, I still linked PBS which you conveniently ignored.
I really don't give a damn what nonsense statistics the Defamation league pulled out their ass to justify their lies
which you conveniently ignored.
Yes, I rightly ignore your worthless propaganda spam
pizza, eli, take a breather and ignore each other please.
And for the record pizza, replying to "your source is shit" with "you hate jews" was completely uncalled for. Yes, Eli could've said why the ADL is bad, but I did cover why it was a bad source.
Yes, Eli could've said why the ADL is bad,
It was inherent in my dismissal by calling them the "defamation league". They're bad because they materially lie to harm their political opposition
At issue here is the patriot act weakening of the right to financial privacy act of 1978. People have a 4th amendment protection of their persons and papers against unreasonable search. Except, you know, where terrorism is suspected. Then the g-men can do just about whatever they want to keep america safe from those Muslim terrorists. And domestic terrorists.
I remember any criticism of the Patriot act at the time was immediately slapped down as anti-american and seen as support for fundamentalist Muslim killers that want to murder us all and impose Sharia law on any survivors.
So now that creeping erosion of rights is currently justified against a different group, it seems like a leopards ate my face situation.
The people at Antifa headquarters might be celebrating this because it targets their opponents, but government agencies could just as well check bank records for other activity deemed un-american and/or indicative of extremist or criminal activity, like purchasing hrt products or mifepristone. It's not much of a stretch to think that people could be made very worried about trans-abortionist terrorists threatening our American Way of Life.