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Instead of focusing too much on all of the things that are currently wrong, could you please help paint a picture of what a future utopian society could look like?

My vision is heavily inspired by Terence McKenna. I imagine a world as it might have existed during prehistoric times. Lush forests teeming with exotic wildlife, clean air, and crystal clear water. No highways full of billboards, no parking lots, no shopping malls, and no cars. Just safe grounds and paths for humans embedded deep within all of this nature.

At a birds-eye view, it may look as if humanity has completely abandoned technology and regressed back into its childhood. Yet if you were to look out through the eyes of one of these utopian people, you would see the most wonderful augmented reality display.

Information, communication, entertainment, education, global economies… almost everything has been de-materialized. Humanity’s ceaseless pursuit of technology has been mostly divorced from our physical environment and mother earth is bustling with life again.

The only technologies that remain in the real world are those that help all of us live happy and healthy lives (modern medicine, delicious food, solar power, etc) all the while the shared virtual reality in our eyes is limited only by our collective imaginations.

We are finally living in accord with nature without having to forsake our innate desire for knowledge and progress.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Iain M. Banks' Culture

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My vision of an ideal world is a hard one to answer but does have a few key aspects to it.

Where getting sick or hurt doesn't financially ruin someone.

Where people can seek mental health care without destroying their lives.

Where homelessness is a thing of the past.

Where no one goes hungry.

Where seeking to improve yourself via higher education doesn't cost money.

Where school funding is based on needs rather than location.

Where people are judged by the value of their character rather than the color of their skin, who they love, or the money in their bank account.

My ideal world isn't some far off fantasy, my ideal world is something that we can achieve in our lifetimes if we try.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I want to live in that world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well, we could all move into a matrix-like universe where we're gods, I guess. Then all we'd need for civilisation is server farms and the infrastructure to maintain them.

More near-term, if I was dictator for a day I'd impose a wealth cap between at maybe 10 or 15 million CAD and a guaranteed income you can live a very basic but comfortable life on. I feel like that would solve most problems. This could be applied globally too (with some ramp-up time) if we're assuming world government. Climate change could be addressed with a carbon tax high enough to fund the offsetting of the pollution's social cost.

I'm a wonk and I could go on, but those are the biggest things.

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[–] Andiloor 1 points 1 year ago

Totally ideal? Green energy robots automate all the stuff humans need (food, water, shelter, sanitation, etc.) so that no one has to work and people can do whatever they want!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wall-E. I get to be the robot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly, it's purely a dream. Humanity will reach extinction levels before any type of reorganization and rebuilding may occur. Only then can we hold hope that greater minds recognize that the greater good for all equals a better community and society.

I know you don't want me to look backward....however, IMO: humanity missed the boat at the end of WWII. If humans couldn't work together for a collective betterment for everyone, it'll never happen without a complete reset of the human species.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

One where the rich pay more tax then they currently do now. Also slap a carbon tax on these fuckers and use the cash to fund climate mitigation / adaptation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't dream much but I would like to live in a world where all the information published is free to modify and share (i.e. all the research data, hardware assembly instructions, firmware, microcode, software, books is copyleft). Intellectual property exists only as share-alike materials, you must publish the internals alongside with the end-user product (e.g. you can buy a CD, or download a content online). All the software is open-source, copyleft. Paywalls can only exist to cover infrastructure costs, you can still copy the content that is behind the paywall as long as you include the original author. This would break all the walled gardens of information.

Also, no dictatorships.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime 0 points 1 year ago

UBI that is linked to the average income. So the more people work, the more everyone gets every month and vice versa. Make it so jobs are not necessary but available to better help humanity or whatever since machines will be able to provide most if not all the labor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My ideal world is one where the population of humanity exceeds 10trillion, but the population of earth is <100,000 permanent residents with yearly visitation from tourism etc exceeds 100million thanks to the series of space elevators that have been built. The majority of humanity are living in space at various Lagrange points in O'Neill cylinders and at least a quarter of humanity are in living in generation ships traveling to distant stars many that are >10pc away.
The Asteroid Belt has been mostly mined out though that isn't much of a problem as fission/fusion generation supplementing the solar dyson ring has transformed us firmly into a type 1 civilization.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like all this and I'll add that for those who choose to participate, there is more than enough. For those who opt out, there is no lack.

But numbing oneself isn't a passtime.

And all are treated with respect and freedom for all is a primary principle.

In essence: this and the other post that includes no scarcity and the end of capitalism.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A world where all humans are autistic.

It wouldn't solve everything, but at least there wouldn't be room for chronic reification, useless charismatic narcissists, Cartesian dualism, etc to become big issues like they are in our world.

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