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[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  1. Force women to give birth against their will
  2. Deny them any public support

Seems like they're intentionally maximizing the suffering of women and children.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's been their platform for decades. The cruelty is the point

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

They don’t actually give a fuck about cruelty imo because they don’t see worker drones as people. Ensuring the working class is on the edge of crisis is the point. They want people to be hardly making it, but enough to keep going, so they’ll work endlessly and accept crappy conditions. They want people to be deluded by propaganda and not have the energy or time to seek political change. Making money and retaining power is the point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

That's the viewpoint of the elites running the party. For the average rube, they want to see the "right people" suffer.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's because you're thinking about it wrong. Here try this: say "Jesus!" Good- now wave your hands way above your head like you're waving to a cloud with both hands.

There ya go. See? It all makes perfect, rational, logical sense. vote Trump. Then shut up.

Next!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't society miserable? It's because you don't work hard enough. Also government doesn't work. Can't you see how we didn't send you food? It's the government's fault so we need to get rid of the government. Both sides! But first vote for us so we can remove the government regulations that are stopping us from destroying the government

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also it's a trans kid's fault.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

THE trans kid.

Started a weird group about eggs with a bunch of normal kids

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The next step is to turn both thumbs down and frown while saying socialism.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The 15 states that did not apply are Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Vermont and Wyoming.

Fuck paywalls.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also, fuck those governors.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I live in South Dakota. Kristi Noem is an absolute ghoul.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My understanding is that she’s on the shortlist to be Trump’s running-mate.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Doesn't surprise me.

She's so awful that she's literally blacklisted from setting foot on the Pine Ridge Reservation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I live in Texas, where our governor recently pined for shooting migrants at the border. I feel you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately I’m in Texas too. Can’t wait to get the hell outta here, probably close to a year and a half and we can leave, wife wants to wait til youngest is 18 and on his own.

Hope we live that long. Stay warm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Yep. I actually have a discord buddy in Texas, and we talk about these things a lot. I empathize.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Vermont??

Oh they elected trash as a governor. Mind blown.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So weird how Vermont has a Republican governor and Kansas and Kentucky have Democrat ones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Especially since Vermont is one of the most liberal and progressive states in the entire country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Surprised my state (TN) isn’t on the list. Our government is almost as shitty as Florida’s.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

imagine being so partisan you're willing to throw all the children in your state under the bus.

Aren't most of those states allowing child labor as well?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

How else do you convince children to work for low wages if they're well-fed and happy?!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For these guys...the cruelty is the point

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

You can they really care... about making life harder for people.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

“We anticipate that our state’s full approach to serving children will continue to be successful this year without any additional federal programs that inherently always come with some federal strings attached.”

Like what?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Like when they put interstates through the Southern United States, then had to actually force Florida to enforce drunk driving rules, threatening to take away highway funding iirc. Just one of the million examples I can remember being controversial briefly. I wanna say there was a similar debacle surrounding seat belts. Basically any time the Fed gives you money, it comes with some (albeit basic, somewhat common sense) rules and stipulations.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

"You must turn off the orphan crushing machine to receive food aid for children."

GOP, "No, we like our orphan crushing machine."

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Maybe they are required to follow educational guidelines that might hamper their book, CRT, black history, LGBTQ+, etc., banning efforts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Like feeding kids, duh.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the party that wants to put god back in schools also wants them to starve while they worship

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If God wanted those kids fed, he'd have rained mana from the heavens, or multiplied bread and fish for them. If they are hungry, they clearly deserve it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

The kids deserve it for being poor and not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and starting a small business.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

The party of "family values" and "pro-life".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a Venn diagram somewhere of the states denying food aid for children and states rolling back child labor protections. From the linked article "State child labor law changes are part of a broader, troubling agenda to boost corporate profits and increase economic desperation of low-income families and children" and "While FGA lobbies for the erosion of child labor protections in states like Arkansas, Iowa, and Missouri, they are simultaneously working to limit access to anti-poverty programs like SNAP and Medicaid, block expansion of Medicaid eligibility, and promote the defunding of public education through expansion of school vouchers in the same states. Taken together, FGA’s priorities represent a radical, multilayered assault on the same low-income families whose economically desperate children are most vulnerable to recruitment by unscrupulous employers for jobs involving long hours, low wages, and hazardous conditions that harm their education, health, and well-being."

So literally the plan is: Make em super hungry, exploit them for cheap labor while they're young, tell em anyone who's still hungry is a lazy leach who deserves to starve.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Think of the children...when it's time for 'cost savings'." -- G.O.P.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“The children matter! Let’s change that”

-GOP

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Imagine a world of endless pregnancies and births, but no surviving children!" -GOP

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

That banana is fucking massive

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


More than eight million children in 15 states, all led by Republican governors, will be shut out of a new federal food assistance program intended to help needy families during the summer months.

Set to begin this summer, the new program will provide low-income families with $120 for each eligible child, which can be used to purchase food at grocery stores, farmers’ markets or other approved retailers when such assistance is not available in schools.

Asked why Florida did not apply for the summer food program, the state’s Department of Children and Families wrote in an email to The Orlando Sentinel last month: “We anticipate that our state’s full approach to serving children will continue to be successful this year without any additional federal programs that inherently always come with some federal strings attached.”

But he said he was heartened by the willingness of the state’s tribal nations — the Cherokee, Chickasaw and Osage — to offer the program to eligible Native and non-Native children on their reservations.

Missouri, for instance, wrote in a letter to the Agriculture Department in December that a “lack of final guidance” and the uncertainty of securing state funding posed “potential unforeseen challenges.”

Still, Caitlin Whaley, communications director for the Missouri Department of Social Services, explained: “Philosophically, we support the premise that kids should be fed in the summer, and this is an additional resource to that end.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Capitalism Jesus is proud. Fuck those lazy kids wanting handouts! Are there no workhouses?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

We should be sending more kids into dirty chimneys.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Seeing Vermont on the list and their rationale of it being very difficult to meet the legislative requirements to fulfill this makes me question criticism of not signing up.

I do see some of the rationales being bullshit for many states but it doesn't seem trivial to take advantage of this aid money from an organizational perspective.

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