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[-] [email protected] 82 points 6 months ago

This guy wiped out an entire race with a thought and your plan is to do what exactly?

[-] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

Me personally? I’m going to back away slowly without giving him my name.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

It's like that scene in "The Dark Knight"

Lucius Fox : Let me get this straight, you think that your client, one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world, is secretly a vigilante, who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands, and your plan is to blackmail this person?

[Reese's face falls and Fox smiles]

Lucius Fox : Good luck.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

With a thought, because he was pissed off, and Wesley's big brain idea is to fuck with him. Picard had the wisdom to shrug and go "whatcha gonna do?"

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I'm sure Picard could get a hold of Q and make a deal.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Q would have said,

"Oh the Husnock? Horrible, simply horrible species. Good riddance. Did you ask me here to give Uxbridge a medal or something? Because he certainly doesn't deserve it! Why I've already genocided three species this morning and didn't even get a thank you."

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago

That guy put himself in solitary confinement, forever. What could the feddies do to him that is more fitting?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Cruel and unusual much?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Pipe in an endless loop of "Baby Shark" and Justin Bieber?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Taylor Swift. I've got that "wildest dreams" one stuck in my head. It's an anxiety thing.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Is it really confinement if you can leave of your own volition?

Also, hang him.

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago

I mean, I sort of imagine it to be less the "rule on the books" part, and more the "do we actually have the physical capacity to enforce those rules" end of it. They cant really imprison him (I mean while he's feeling guilty he might stay willingly, but they cant keep him in if he eventually changes his mind, so itd more be him imprisoning himself). Trying to despite the futility of it would seem somewhat dangerous, because again, if he should ever change his mind, you clearly dont want to seem hostile to something with that kind of power, especially when you dont have it. Saying "Our law is not sufficient for you" could just be interpreted as the most diplomatic way given his mental state to justify leaving and not returning.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago

To be fair Janeway wasn't around at the time, so they didn't have any examples of genocide to go off of.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Didn't Sisko wipe out a whole planet because fuck you Eddington?

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

He just made it uninhabitable by humans. Not exactly the same as wiping it out, but since it forced displacement of a whole planet, it was genocide.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Phlox, Janeway, Sisko

Damn. Lots of genocide from the good guys.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Why not Phlox?

[-] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

If the Federation was in the business of putting higher beings on trial, don't you think the second they learned Q was human they'd slap him in a courtroom so fast it'd make his head spin?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Hold up. Q is human??

Fuck me. That's big spoilers. When am I gonna find this out?

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Later on we find out he was just 2 Q kids in a trenchcoat pretending to be human

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I summon thee, @Stamets to do your duty

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If these are spoilers you are about 30 years behind.

QTwo that I can remember: Q got temporarily kicked out of the continuum (reference d above), also when Q got banished in the asteroid and Janeway let him out, he became human, then committed suicide.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

Note that Q and Q are not the same person.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Of course. A Q may be a Q, but not all Q are the same Q

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

I was talking about the first Q, of course.

The case with the second Q was technically a civil suit.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah I'm only a couple seasons into TNG.

[-] OnlyTakesLs 13 points 6 months ago

Q was turned into a human by other Q. It lasted for an episode

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

He is in one episode.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Genocide requires intent. Whereas this alien just had a fleeting moment of anger at the time of his wife being murdered.

Can he really be tried for genocide? It's hard to say, but I'd say not. We all have dark intrusive thoughts, and in this instance it had disastrous consequences.

It's all moot anyway. If you have no means or intention to enforce a law, does it really exist?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Second degree species slaughter

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Ah, a heated gaming moment. We've all been there.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

That's why manslaughter is different than murder

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The heat-of-passion is something to argue to mitigate culpability. Yes, he killed an entire species, and wasn't exactly justified, but his emotions and passions were inflamed by the aliens murdering his wife making his actions involuntary.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah but we aren't talking heat-of-the-moment shoving someone into traffic during a bar fight, we're talking heat-of-the-moment naughty thought during an aerial bombardment from a hostile force where his wife was killed.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Genocide requires intent.

Is that actually, legally, true?

In other words, does the word identify the cause, or the effect?

Can he really be tried for genocide? It’s hard to say, but I’d say not.

How so? The facts seem self-evident.

It’s all moot anyway. If you have no means or intention to enforce a law, does it really exist?

You can still classify someone though in such a way, in hopes that in some future time you can enforce the law on them, having being previously judged as a criminal.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Yes, genocide is intentional, it's in the definition.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Genocide does require intent, yes.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

Shut up, Wesley! We must be circumspect with those who could visit genocide upon US with a thought. Also, don't bring up how often I challenged Q when he could have done the same or I'll just tell you to shut up again.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Genocide is systematic.

This was instantaneous.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Yea, but genocide is like way to much paperwork

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The dude snapped when he's loved ones were killed, that is considered exculpatory of violent actions in almost all legal systems. The difference is that instead of a knife or a gun he had almost omnipotent powers of destruction.

In an ideal society he would get psychological counseling to deal with the trauma and ensure it doesn't happen again, but I think it's obvious he was a bit above Troi's pay grade.

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