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submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"Seattle responded to the request by filing a lawsuit in Travis County, stating they cannot comply because Texas has no jurisdiction in Washington State, and no care was provided by the hospital in Texas. They also point out that the Dormant Commerce Clause, protected by the United States Constitution, “protects the right to interstate travel, including to obtain healthcare services.” By targeting out-of-state hospitals for enforcement of laws that only apply within the jurisdiction of Texas, they “discriminate against healthcare based on an interstate element,” violating constitutional protections, according to the legal filing. Lastly, Seattle Children’s Hospital cannot comply due to a shield law passed by Washington State. This law bars the hospital from providing any patient data and from responding to subpoenas pursuant to “protected healthcare services” obtained within the jurisdiction of Washington. Protected healthcare services include abortion, reproductive care, and gender-affirming care."

"This case promises to be extraordinarily complex. Seattle Children’s Hospital is challenging the jurisdiction of the demands directly in a Texas state court. Regardless of what the local court decides, the claims are likely to go to the Texas Supreme Court. Given that the claims also have a time limit on them and that appeals in Texas automatically favor the attorney general due to an automatic lifting of stays in the state, Seattle Children’s Hospital workers and providers for trans patients from Texas could be under legal jeopardy. Ultimately, the case presents questions of conflicting state laws and regulation of conduct across state lines, and the implications of those laws could be dire for abortion and trans care nationwide."

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[-] [email protected] 239 points 6 months ago

Thank you Seattle Children's Hospital for standing up to that bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 112 points 6 months ago

Also thank you to Washington state for passing the shield law to make this happen.

"Go fuck yourself, Texas." - Sincerely, Washington state residents

[-] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago

I feel that even without the shield law, this would be a violation of HIPAA

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

To be fair, they are legally required to. Complying with Texas' request would violate Washington law.

[-] [email protected] 138 points 6 months ago

This case promises to be extraordinarily complex.

It really shouldn't be complex at all. It should be extremely simple: Is Seattle within the jurisdiction of the Texas AG or not?

[-] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago

I guess the issue is that they have to convince a Texas court of that, instead of some kind of reasonable judge.

[-] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago

Until it gets kicked up to federal court, at which point a judge will laugh Texas out of the courtroom. This is a huge waste of time that will achieve nothing.

[-] [email protected] 98 points 6 months ago

"This is a huge waste of time that will achieve nothing."

That's the GOPs entire platform.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Obfuscate, obstruct, oppress.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

Texas is under the 5th circuit.

Judges there are often just as insane as their lower court brethren. Fully by design.

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[-] [email protected] 127 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

More reasons to never, ever fucking step foot in the fucking shithole that is Texas.

Drive around it if you fucking have to.

[-] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago

Seriously! Apparently they try to claim ownership of you even after you leave now.

[-] [email protected] 119 points 6 months ago

As a Washingtonian, don't fuck with Seattle Children's Hospital, you piece of shit.

[-] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago

As a Texan, can confirm that Ken Paxton is a piece of shit.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago

I wish he would roll Abbot off a cliff and jump down after him.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

I once stood within 3 feet of Greg Abbott. Every single day of my life, I regret not punching him straight in the nose. It wouldn’t have changed anything, but he most certainly deserved it then, and double deserves it now.

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[-] knobbysideup 68 points 6 months ago

They (gop) really want a civil war.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago

they do realize that if they start it and we win, we're gonna have to finish the job for good this time, right? we aren't gonna make the "ending reconstruction early" mistake twice.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago

Sherman should have never stopped.

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[-] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago

Who will rid us of this meddlesome priest?

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago

And nothing of this is actually about trans youth. They really don't give a shit, they know this won't work and just do this anyway to rule the crazies to vote whilst also distracting everyone from them stealing said crazies dry

[-] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago

Shouldn't he be in prison for when he tried to murder that poor pregnant woman a couple weeks ago?

[-] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago

But I thought Texas was all about "States rights to decide for themselves!"

[-] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago

Republicans: "States need to decide for themselves!"

Blue states: "Okay. We decide to protect LGBTQ people. And abortion rights. And prosecute people who tried to overturn our elections."

Republicans: "NOT LIKE THAT!!!"

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago

Why was the lawsuit filed in Texas and not in Washington State? The hospital is based in Seattle, the people coming for care received that care in Seattle, ... Surely Washington state courts should have the final say.

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago

Seattle PD should demand the Texas AG come to their station to answer harassment complaints.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Seattle PD will tear gas their own citizens. Can't imagine what they'd do to someone from outside the state

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

This case promises to be extraordinarily complex

Does it? It seems pretty clear to me that the state of Texas does not have any authority over a children's hospital over 1000 miles outside of its jurisdiction. What exactly is complex about this?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

It's going to be complex because the Texas AG has already made their dumb decision, and now the hospital is suing the state of Texas in Texas.

It'll be complex because the fascist Texas courts are involved.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago

If you can arrest an entire hospital can you arrest an entire state government?

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago

Can they also try to undermine the federal HIPAA law at the same time?

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago

He was born in 1962 and worked two years as "business consultant" and eleven years as lawyer for corporations. In his 61 years of life he has worked at most thirteen of them. The rest of the time has been bouncing around fake government part time jobs. He has zero experience with law enforcement or the justice system in general.

As long as we allow the talentless hacks of the world to rule us the world that they want will remain. Go ask your local elected officials if they can change a tire and how was work today.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

My thoughts go out to the patients of Seattle Children's Hospital. What a shitty situation and what a shitty person.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago

Republican sues to see kids genitals.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

Never stop overreaching. Assholes.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

I have dealt with Ken a few times now. He is as big a douchebag as he is a dipshit.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

Who exactly is he planning to put in jail? Sounds like workers in seattle. But really... which one? I honestly don't even know why they bothered to respond to this political stunt.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

Does Texas believe we don't have guns?

Just because we don't parade around with it or make it our identity.

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