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[–] [email protected] 92 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This really seems like something the FCC should be enforcing... T-Mobile has no authority to make anyone pay fines... Terms of Service are not legally binding like that. All they can do is refuse service, and report the activity if it's actually illegal.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

They're enforcement would likely escalate to a stopping of message delivery from the offenders.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

When you replace government regulations with self regulating corporation, this is the best we can hope for I guess.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

…yes they do. This is for vendors that use/enter into a business relationship with T-Mobile directly to send short codes or SMS. I.e. companies like Vonage and Twilio.

You can absolutely enforce fees against your direct customers for certain behaviors.

This would not work for messages received from other telcos

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

FCC is kind of a joke. Corp tells them what to do. If FCC did what it's meant to do, we wouldn't have such crap mobile and Internet infrastructure, terrible privacy policies, etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Mmmmm, yeah, I'm going to need you to ~~come in on Sunday, too... we kinda lost some people and we need to do a little catch-up~~ also fine the bitches that handle the political bullshit, too, thaaaanks.

Like 4 years ago I started replying to these (political) unwanted messages with pretty hardcore yiff. The replies I get are great, and I don't think I've had the same campaign try twice since, but I'd rather just not see the shit at all. Add a 0 or three to that figure.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again

[–] thecrotch 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ditto for candidates that send me a bunch of flyers which go from my mailbox directly into the dumpster.

[–] vaultdweller013 3 points 7 months ago

For me its the fireplace, still worse than random grocery advertisments.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

I do the same! One goatse reply and they'll leave you alone usually

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Like 4 years ago I started replying to these (political) unwanted messages with pretty hardcore yiff

Do it long enough and you'll find the marketing dude who's into it and just spams you more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

This means kink war. And I'm going to win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Time to send you some political spam messages, eh?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] FlorianSimon 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately no, I don't believe so. In the same vein that it's not illegal to send snail-mail ads and junk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

not you spamming us with the same comment twice

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

Cost of doing business. T-Mobile just demanding a slice of the action

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Rules for thee but not for me huh?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Not sure what that means. I never get any messages from TMO unless it's a bill notification...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Per message? Or just per "incident"?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How does a company fine someone?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

they ask nicely for money

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We need to kill phone numbers like, yesterday. It’s too hard to change a phone number.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

We need a way to give a unique number to everyone, record who we gave them to, enforce that only they can use it, and burn them at any time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

From what I've heard, it's very easy to change your phone number on T-Mobile.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Good luck getting all your 2FA changed on all your accounts. Good luck updating all your friends and family. Good luck informing every company you do business with.

[–] Eezyville 5 points 7 months ago

You act like those aren't the reasons my number is getting changed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

IMHO, you shouldn't use your phone number for 2FA anyways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I agree, but usually don’t have an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I avoid this wherever possible, because the only reason to do it is to track you more. It's expensive and more complicated to set up than app 2fa which is free to operate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Looks like a USA problem.

Idk about 2FA, but updating friends and family is insanely easy on most messaging platforms. I can update my phone number and then WhatsApp or Telegram will prompt those who chat with me that I've changed my number and they can switch to that number for chatting.

WhatsApp: Screenshot_20231229-131041

Notice received when the number is changed on WhatsApp: IMG_20231229_131425_783

Telegram: Screenshot_20231229-131125

As for contacting businesses, this seems like a personal situation, since I contact companies via the above messaging apps. So they will receive a notification about my updated number.

I'll verify if this is optional, so we can choose if people get that notice...

Edit:

You can't specify who gets informed. If you've blocked someone, they will not get that notification.

I've also added images above to demonstrate how it works on the two platforms I mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Spam callers don't seem to care what number they're dialing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Fair point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Is this per message, or...?