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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The US has a good option: pull out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, no trade via the Suez Canal? I’m sure that will help inflation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The US is free to pull the leash on its attack dog and call for a ceasefire in Gaza. This is a blockade for a blockade and veto for a veto. You are seeing Yemen responding to US aggression.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And let them take innocent people hostage?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US is not the fucking world police. It's absolutely incredible westerners think they have the right to just unilaterally strut around the world and do whatever they like.

[–] jubilationtcornpone -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maintaining an empire is a dirty business. Always has been.

Edit: I am not advocating that this is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

innocent people

Hah! Funny! I hope you are lying and don't actually believe it.

We both clearly want the same thing though, but we foresee different outcomes. We want to bait the US into another war in our region because we have strong confidence it will be defeated. You though clearly forgot the lessons of Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq and need a refresher :)

[–] TheOSINTguy 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In afganistan, about rougly 1900 US soldiers were killed, wereas about 60-70000 insurgents were killed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are there insurgents in Ukraine? It was the Afghani resistance to the US invasion.

Wars aren’t won by who kills the most civilians. Otherwise the US won in Vietnam. The US invaded Afghanistan, spent 20 years and 2.3 trillion dollars trying to prop up a puppet government that collapsed and the pre-invasion government retook Afghanistan.

Expect a similar outcome in Yemen.

[–] TheOSINTguy 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Learn about Yemen, or don't... It is interesting that you bring up Iraq given that the US lost in it too ultimately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think they mean out of Israel since that's why the Houthis are attacking but that would mean giving up a strategic advantage in the middle east so very little chance that'll ever happen

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There were liberals saying, "I can't wait for the Houthis to find out why we don't have Universal Healthcare." They did. Your shitty governance and selling out the MIC completely to private interests is why.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They really need a refresher. They are clearly not contend with losing to Iraq and Afghanistan, they need to lose in Yemen too. Just like they haven't learned any lesson from Vietnam.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It comes back to how deeply rooted American Exceptionalism is in the American psyche. There's this idea that you can always win, in fact you are supposed to win, so if you lose it's because you made a mistake. There's no such thing as a no-win scenario, and there's no such thing as doing everything you can but losing to an opponent who also knows what they're doing.

The easiest place to see this mentality is in American sports fans. The opinion "the other guys are professionals too and are sometimes just better" is always in the extreme minority. And people are more tribal and less rational about nationalism than sports fandom.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Have you tried... not supporting genocide?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So it’s okay to attack US Naval vessels without ramifications now?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So it’s okay to veto a ceasefire in Gaza without ramifications now?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every admiral would tell his political superiors that military necessity would call for attacks on Houthi missile infrastructure on the ground in Yemen: fixed and mobile launch sites, production and storage facilities, command centres and whatever little radar infrastructure there exists.

This has to already be happening, certainly through Saudi Arabia, probably also with direct, covert U.S. action.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup. The US has already been fighting Ansar Allah using Saudi Arabia and UAE for years. I am familiar with it, my city (Jeddah) has been struck by them. I’m just bad at nationalism that I still support them and even more so now. Not just me, but they are now more popular than ever in Yemen and around the region.

The US will learn soon enough that Afghanistan was easy mode compared to Yemen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I saw it coming. Just watch it play out. Yemen will make the US miss its losses in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't the US have a navy so big that the next 3 biggest navies combined aren't as big or something insane like that?

The article itself doesn't really explain much. Apparently one destroyer managed to hold off 9 hours worth of attacks and the US has mostly been using SAM platforms to shoot down missiles but nothing about how Houthis could actually achieve anything.

I would even cheer for the Houthis if they were fighting to support Palestine even if it is hopeless but they are just doing Somali pirates 2.0 from the look of things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The egregious cost of interceptors compared to the missiles themself make it possible for even Yemen to drain US military assets in the region.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The burger empire has met its match.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)