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[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Spend 30 days in jail vs Murder the locals.

Shocked that this is so rare it makes the news.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It isn't rare at all, the news is just primed to latch onto this stuff now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I hope you're right. It's entirely possible you are and this is being politicized and publicized precisely because of ongoing events. But I sincerely hope the number does go up because of current events.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This shouldn't even be news, it literally happens constantly in Israel. I personally know someone who did time for refusing mandatory service. It's considered a rite of passage by those of certain political persuasions.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

Forced military service in an ethnostate engaged in genocide is a pretty righteous thing to oppose.

Conscription is yet another good reason to stop finding or enabling Israel's psychotic march to the sea.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

FYI, the phrase is "rite of passage".

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago

If my country was doing this I’d refuse too.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Prison or worse for refusing to give your life for your Leader is completely normal in any fascist regime.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Normal? It's a defining feature

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Well, among other.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Please tell me of one country where you can refuse to obey a call to arms.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Most EU contries don`t have a forced Military Service. Even if they have, as.eg Germany in the past, you can select an alternative social service for an equivalent time, if you don't want become a soldier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

No European country is at war. Do you really think it wouldn't come back if war was actually starting in Europe?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shit, this is one of the kids Hasan just had on a couple weeks ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what you mean by "who?". Are you asking me who the person that was arrested is, or who Hasan is?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Hasan Piker. Hasanabi. Leftist streamer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I had no clue who "Hasan" is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'll add to his resume, too. Destroyer of Andrew Tate, bane of the Bald and Fat (Fresh and Fit) "podcast".

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like a good thing. But the dude thinks Russia is justified...??

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Justified in what? If you're talking about the Ukrainian invasion that's been going on for two years, no he does not.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Does doing charity streams to raise over $200,000 for Ukrainian relief funds count as evidence? There's this cool Google machine that can answer all of your questions so you're not relying on random people online.

[–] can 30 points 8 months ago

Good for him. Hope they treat him better than they've shown they treat other civilians.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

It actually makes me so angry that Israel gives religious exceptions, but you can’t have a moral one. What the fuck how does that contradiction not start a civil war

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

That's pretty intense, good luck to them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Good for him for standing up for his ideals. Also, this is not news because this is what happens when you don't follow conscription orders.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

I would take prison not just for obvious ethical reasons but also because I don't want to be shitting diarrhea in my battlefield diapers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Honestly commendable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

What’s legal and what’s moral are rarely the same

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Good on him.