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[–] [email protected] 121 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the fact that they actually hit the restart button was so insanely unnecessary and cruel. 60% seems high really

[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The cruelty is the point. You gotta use the whip to motivate your ‘workers’ right.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not sure what proportion of loans it accounts for, but the 60% figure probably also includes people like me who currently have $0 monthly payments. Hilariously every month it takes 3 days to "process" my "auto-debit payment" of $0 but I imagine those are all being marked as "paid" in the system.

[–] VeryNiiiice 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Be careful. Mine has $0 monthly payments for some years but is still accruing interest.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago

The whole ordeal is/was a colossal screw up.

The student loan company I had to deal with lied to me and made no apologies about it. When I submitted an official complaint through the Federal Student Aid site, it wasn't handled by some government agent or a 3rd party supervisor, it was handled by a customer service rep working for the student loan company. It was literally "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" kind of thing.

Having said that, you may still want to file a complaint if you have had issues with the USA's loan servicing - https://studentaid.gov/feedback-center/. It's probably delusional, but I feel like at least having an official record of the report could be helpful down the line at some point. Maybe one day the Federal government will seriously investigate, or maybe one day there will be a lawsuit and at least an official complaint could serve as evidence you were impacted.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (5 children)

We don’t have to pay for the first year, interest accrues, but you don’t become delinquent. Either I completely misread the agreement I signed, and so did many others including journalists.

More likely, this particular article is garbage.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well that's even harsher. They'll let you build up some principal before garnishment.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Wait don’t do that. They garnish wages for student debt. They’re happy to do it, too, as they get to keep a big chunk of extra fees that way.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

While agree that not paying you are just sinking youself deeper especially since you can’t declare bankruptcy and get rid of the debt. The Biden administration put an on-ramp period in place so that it would reduce any penalties for not paying. Repayments start

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Time to start working under the table.

This is what happens when the social contract unravels.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until they bring back debtors prisons to fix the labor shortage

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How would removing people from the labor force fix the shortage? Did debtors prisons have you work for companies or something?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

The 13th amendment outlaws the practice of slavery, except for prisoners. A possible (legally questionable and morally objectionable) solution is to throw those who can’t pay in prison, then force them into labor as prisoners, and use that labor to pay their debts, after they pay room/board of course, thus ensuring they never escape their bonds

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

The answer to your questions is slavery with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That takes a lot of work and a court order. You can avoid that by making a token payment say of five dollars once a month.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Millions of borrowers have probably gotten themselves into situations where they can't make their payments.

[–] Bakkoda 34 points 11 months ago

Honestly, why the fuck should they? Mohela is a perfect example of how impressively bad the restart of payments went. Absolutely bottled it. People paid, didn't register, they reported late payments then magically everything was ok... until the next payment.

The entire restart was an absolute shit show. Fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This could be good. If students default en mass congress might be forced to enact debt forgiveness

[–] Eezyville 24 points 11 months ago

You got some wishful thinking there buddy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Unfortunately student loans are one of the few types of loans you cannot default on or get relief through bankruptcy. From what I understand, anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

No, they'll just garnish your wages

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

Hold the line until every single executive at Bear, Goldman, and AIG pays back their bonuses.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Eezyville 19 points 11 months ago

This article is way back in 2020. Two douchebags went to the Supreme Court to stop the White House from forgiving debt.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the greedy bankers taking advantage of students trying to gain an education. They deserve to get fucked and every American citizen deserves an education.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the universities too. Why do they cost so much in the U.S.A.?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Is it an intentional strike or simply not being able to pay?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Strikes are traditionally caused by situations that the striking persons have determined are untenable in one way or another.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Fucking usurer scum. The real cancer of our planet. How is this bs fair?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Politics aside, as someone who defaulted on student loans years ago, don’t do that. It is a decision that will follow you for a ridiculously long time with little recourse.

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