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After having been found guilty in 2 out of 4 charges by a six-person jury, Jonatham Majors has been fired by Disney/Marvel Studios. Majors was found guilty of reckless assault in the third degree and guilty of harassment. He was found not guilty of intentional assault in the third degree and not guilty of aggravated harassment in second degree.

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Good for them. Life is too short to enable abusers.

Time to recast and move on. Kang is a comic book space wizard. We can suspend our disbelief that much further. Maybe choose a much older actor and let the age difference be part of the explanation.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Kang is already a multidimensional being. Loki established that multidimensional beings can look like pretty much anything (even alligators). Recasting Kang is the easiest thing to do in cannon. "Turns out, those Kangs aren't the most common it's actually the new Kang"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (5 children)

But in their amazing ant man movie they all look exactly the same.

[–] NeryK 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They just have to George Lucas that mid-credits scene with all the Kangs. It was pretty dumb anyway with all of them screaming hysterically. Now they have good cause to redo it 😏

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just replay that scene and pull back out of a screen in the TVA, where Mobius looks disturbed. O.B. says, "That many of one person in one place isn't good for anybody! They're up to no good, I can tell just by looking at them."

B-15, her jaw set firm, pushes a big red button that says PRUNE, and says, "Good riddance."

The entire arena dissolves, and a moment later Alioth consumes it all in one great gulp.

Mobius sighs, and says, "Nobody tell Victor about this."

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[–] Bluefold 30 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've said it a few times, but I feel like they could have Dr. Doom come in to kill Kang pretty easily. It'd set up a new big bad, introduce the Fox Verse, and even set him up as the leader of any potential Battleworld in the future.

Kang even before the allegations hasn't been received all that well. A soft-reset with Doom might make people excited again. Imo all mystique of the character was already ruined in the Multiverse of Madness post-credits. A FoxVerse Vs MCU battle movie would touch on Endgame levels of hype.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

He who Remains was fantastic, so fun to watch. Kang in Ant-Man was shit but so was all of that movie.

He was well received but he's a cunt so bye.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

One thing I didn't like too well about the whole Kang thing is He Who Remains said that he discovered multiversal travel in the 32nd century and that resulted in the war. This made it seem like traveling the Multiverse was a near impossibility until he mastered it in the far future.

Then as Phase 4 continued, and turns out it's something kinda easy which became the plot for a few movies.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think he was pretty well considered up until Quantumania.

[–] MrScottyTay 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah quantumania killed all hype for kane for me. How can they expect him to be a multiversal threat but he gets beat by ants!? That film needed to be a bit of a bad ending. Everyone gets out so good there. But kang did not lose the fight, they just escaped. That is how it should've went down to big him up further.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There is president for recasting in the MCU already, they swapped out Hulk and War Wachine without even a line of dialogue to address it.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (1 children)

without even a line of dialogue to address it.

"Look, it's me. I'm here. Deal with it. Let's move on" - Iron Man 2, introducing a new Rhodey.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

She-Hulk acknowledges it. "I was a different person back then." (She-Hulk smirks into camera)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Isn’t the whole threat of Kang the fact that there’s an infinite number of him? Like, explaining the recasting Kang in the store seems like the easiest job ever.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Just do what they did to War Machine. We can suspend our disbelief its fine.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mostly joking, but I wouldn't exactly be mad if they brought Terrence Howard in as the new Kang to really hang a lampshade on it.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except he's just a problematic a person as Majors

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Don Cheadle then. That'd actually be funnier.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"Boom! You're looking for this timeline?"

But I would like to see Chukwudi Iwuji to be cast. He was amazing as the High Evolutionary in Guardians Vol. 3 and it would be pretty easy to retcon the character as a Kang variant that was more focussed on genetic manipulation than multiversal travel.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And have absolutely no one acknowledge it, like in Ironman 2. Even when him and warmachine are in the same scene.

[–] fsxylo 12 points 11 months ago

"I'm here, it's me, deal with it."

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Terrance Howard would be like "yeah that's right, it's Terry Math time bitches!"

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's gonna be a pain for the studio, but I'm glad they made the right call quickly here, instead of trying to just ignore it away like DC and Ezra Miller.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't know how DC and WB got away with that. It hurts their reputation in long term.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The movie was already filmed and deep in post-production, and Ezra hadn't been convicted. As simple as that.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

They really had to. They quickly fired Gunn after media reported on old, edgy jokes. You have to fire someone after a guilty assault verdict if that's your threshold.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Start lifting, John Boyega.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Kang the canceled

[–] CaptDust 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Imagine throwing away this opportunity because you couldn't keep your hands to yourself. Goodbye, fucking idiot.

Marvel should recast with a Lady Kang, full send into the "timeline variant" option.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

"Put a chick in it, and make her gay" - Cartman-Kennedy

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (4 children)

At least they waited for the verdict to fire him this time cough Johnny Depp cough cough.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

It's easier for Disney to fire a problematic star who is past his prime and doesnt pull audiences anymore than to fire a problematic star who is considered up and coming, and supposed to frontline a big franchise

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As much as people like to defend Depp, he's a piece of shit who deserves to lose his status. He has great pr that has made everyone around here ignore his mountains of past abusive behavior and being a creep.

Dude is 60, dating 20 year olds and bitching that they're immature. Him and his ex were mutually abusive psychos, she just happened to be worse, but Johnny Depp is a garbage person

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

Dude could’ve printed money riding the Disney/MCU wave. Instead he chose violence.

Bye.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

They should just pull a switcheroo and show that Oroborous was actually Kang all along and that Majors was just a pawn or perhaps a rival he was disguising himself from.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

While this is a fun idea, I really don't see him as a legit villain. The actor is just so goddamn charming.

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[–] MrScottyTay 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Thankfully Loki 2 put them in a good position to just nip the kang storyline in the bud. At least for now. Maybe wait a good decade or two then potentially bring back the threat of Kang with a new actor (or more).

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Personally hope they just recast and say fuck him tbh. Not many villains are on Kang's level, and we've already seen from covid what happens when Marvel has to respond to a massive shift in plans.

[–] MrScottyTay 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm hoping though, that loki 2 were signs of them having got a plan B though. At least if those scenes towards the end were reshoots. If they were in the original script, then it's just a lucky coincidence it looks that way.

Hopefully with a potential recast they can get away with the abysmal portrayal in ant man and have this new version not linked to that one at all.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

That's true. The TVA is killing all the Kangs so maybe only the variants that don't look like Timely/HWR survive.

Or just say, no the TVA handled all the Kangs, here is Dr Doom.

I wonder if Mayors had something in his contract that only he can play Kang, as some people suspect from not already recasting him.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

He can be removed based on the "morality clause" they put in these contracts. Basically "if you make us look bad, you're gone". All entertainers have them because they're public figures.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Those texts were classic abuser manipulation. He also sounds arrogant and unhinged calling himself a great man in them.

He threatened to kill himself to the woman he was abusing the manipulate her. I wonder if he has the balls to follow through now that it's over for him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe now Avengers 4 will just have Thanos return from the multiverse "Somehow Thanos returned......"

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