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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (4 children)

There’s no local ordinance over the ocean? Here (Belgium) it’s mandatory for anything rented or commercially used.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That’s what I don’t get - we aren’t less able to rent shit, simply there’s some requirements to do so. They have the freedom to die of co poisoning?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Regulations restrict freedoms. That's the absolute extent of their logic. In this case, it would infringe on the freedom to rent unsafe lodging to people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that would not go well with my personal rule #1; don’t be an asshole to others.

[–] otp 1 points 8 months ago

I think the first ammendment is freedom of speech and the second ammendment is the right to shoot guns. So you have the right to be an asshole and get shot for it, and if you were wrongly shot, someone else can shoot the person who shot you. Perfect harmony!

/lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Our conservatives do not like regulations. wE HaVe fReEDuMb!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The same ones that censor books and prevent abortion? MhHHhhhh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah the same ones who espouse InDiViDuAl FrEeDuMB and DoNt tREaD oN mE but who drone about what other people choose to identify as, try to stop them, and what literally in no way impacts them.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

Imo this is one regulation that would be both silly to implemet and impossible to check on

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's strange though that it is not required in private homes, and rbnb are basically available private homes for rent (or at least it started with that)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The moment it’s for rent it’s required. Pretty crafty requirement. In my opinion it should also be mandatory in owner-inhabited housses - it’s a very cheap way to prevent pretty unpleasant death.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

First of all, a death by monoxide is not unpleasant. The thought of death is but monoxide just puts you to sleep (for ever)...

Now.. I get that detectors are great, and I also agree that people should get them! But there's a huge leap from that, and to make them mandatory.

I also get that is it required to have in commercial rooms but airbnb is originally a service to rent a room in your house or maybe your apartment when you dont need it. Its up to people themselves to choose if they want to have a detector and also up to the customer to chose if they want to rent something without a detector Lastly, they can simply bring their own detector with them if they want one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesnt matter here. Rent is rent, means youre in for the safety of the renters. So these detectors are required, period. No "but its just a room" or "just for the weekend". Youre responsable for the safety.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I am not trying to argue how it is in your country. This is a global forum. I am discussing how I feel it should be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Thats fair. Imo how it is here is good. A renter should feel safe and not have to worry about everything

[–] Angry_Maple 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think it's required by law now in Ontario, Canada too. It applies to every residential building with an attached garage, fuel burning appliances, or a fireplace.

It was put in place after an officer died along with her husband and two kids back in 2008 from carbon monoxide poisoning.

More places should have alarm requirements, imo. It's not like you can smell it, see it, taste it, or hear it. Carbon monoxide is called a silent killer for a good reason.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A portable CO detector isn't such a bad idea for staying at places you aren't sure about, even if they aren't airbnbs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Aren't most CO detectors portable? The only ones I've ever seen in stores are small and plug right into the wall like a wall wart or battery powered (or both)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They are, but there are models meant for travel, especially for situations like camping with a wood stove in your tent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What the hell is up with all that CO? I mean... How does one even get CO in those concentrations? Fireplaces? If so, CO detectors aren't the solution, correctly maintained and built chimneys are.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In my friend's case it was just a faulty heater in her apartment. The first cold night of the year she turned on the heat, went to bed, and never woke up. I don't know the details beyond that.

We've had detectors ever since. And I usually think about it this time of year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Condolences

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I assumed that but can't confirm. We had all just graduated the summer prior. She moved out of state and was living in a small apartment. Her family were all overseas. The police contacted us because they couldn't reach her family, so we only got the barest details.

It felt unreal, but it was enough to understand the potential consequences of living in a shitty rental.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck... Sorry to hear that. My arrogant German ass never thought of gas heating when I blurted out how unnecessary CO detectors were...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It was a long time ago. No worries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's gas heating/cooking.

A good time to remind the part of the world using these fuels that this is not a thing if you switch to electric solutions, which are superior for heating/cooling performance and superior for the vast majority cooking use-cases. They also have the potential to have zero emissions, which gas combustion can't really have. Switch today.