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The wife of the New York judge overseeing former President Trump’s ongoing civil fraud trial is the latest target of Trump’s rage online.

Trump took aim at Judge Arthur Engoron’s wife in a series of posts Tuesday afternoon, purporting that an account on X — formerly Twitter — that made several anti-Trump posts belongs to her.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Trump basically wants this judge to snap and or get really harsh with him. Even though the judge would 100% be in the right, Trump will use the harsh penalties as miscarriage of justice ammo in an appeals case.

IMHO, this guy needs to continue doing what he has mostly already done. Don’t take the bait.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

take the bate.

I think that's what Louis C.K. said before he'd do what he did.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No appellate court would side with Trump. It's for his base.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No sane court would. But the last president appointed some real kooks to a lot of courts.

I could see Trump trying to get an injunction against the ruling pending appeal. Even a sane court would need to allow time for discovery, arguments, etc. Any material (in the way of snark or comments from the judge could mean added delays. Trump would definitely slow walk the appeal as much as possible on the hope that he’ll get reelected and pull some nonsense to wriggle out of consequences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The appellate courts are already shooting him down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

4D chess. I didn't realize that I can win a court case by insulting the judge and his family, and then appeal it and say, "See? The judge was prejudiced against me because I behaved like an asshole!"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I get your sarcasm, but don't think any judge would want to take that appeal. Why subject yourself or your colleagues to this kind of abuse. Not sure exactly how that whole process goes, but really doubt there's any way all his bullshit works out to his benefit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What about maga-friendly judges?

They could take the case, rule in trump's favour, and get sweet sweet fascist cred.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'd be top of the Supreme Court Justice list the second Republicans gain the majority again

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Man, we have to be getting real close to the straw... especially when they keep loading anvils on this flattened fucker.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Idk. You'd think even they would see how trump throws even close allies under the bus not even for cause but just to distract or get himself back in the news. Should be obvious, but maybe.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I get your honesty. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in any of The Cheeto's meetings with council, and hear the advice (or protestation) they're giving him. I suppose we all just need to wait long enough - there have been and will be many personal narrative books published about this slow-moving train wreck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Step 0 of this plan is to pay off the appeals judges all the way up to the SC

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ladies and Gentlemen, our former president. A pussy bitch that only knows how to talk shit on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

With this guy? Always has been.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Judge Engoron’s Trump Hating wife, together with his very disturbed and angry law clerk, have taken over control of the New York State Witch Hunt Trial aimed at me, my family, and the Republican Party,” Trump wrote Wednesday in a Truth Social post.

Well, that's not going to go well for his gag order ...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A gag order has since been lifted. Whether it's the one that would cover this, I have no bloody clue.

And frankly the fact, you even need to think about which gag order is in effect, is some peak trash reality TV drama. Which figures.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

It was just reinstated, but probably just after he posted this

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well if wives are fair game, the Thomas's are going to have a rough time.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they would have to have some kind of shame.. or a shred of dignity left to care. they dont.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Plus they wouldn't receive constant threats of violence and death. That mostly just comes from one side. Whoever tweeted about would be in danger.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey you, get back here!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Narrator: He did. Several, in fact.

[–] Dreadnaught 24 points 1 year ago

I have a hard time believing that someone innocent would do this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Definitely a great strategy to go after the judge's wife in a bench trial.

And again, it shows that Trump is just above the law. If anyone else did that they'd be in Rikers for the remainder of the trial.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Trump's lawyer to appeals court judges after verdict:

"Your honor, my client and myself constantly, publicly and viciously attacked the trial judge, his staff, the opposing counsel, and their families, including making many demonstrably false libelous statements. They all received many death threats on a daily basis as a result of our actions. Therefore you must overturn the verdict because he must have been biased against us by our own actions."

Yeah we'll see how that plays out in the appeals courts. I didn't think even republican partisan hack judges will buy that. We'll find out soon I guess though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I've seen chutzpah defined as "that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan."

Same energy here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

For him? I guarantee it.
What other consequences has he ever faced for anything he's said, other than a gag order he knows they won't enforce?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I were going off these posts alone, I would conclude that trump immediately violated the gag order today?

I mean it's very believable...but I'm hoping it's just weird timing of the posts and he stfu for at least a couple hours.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Probably not. The gag order is extremely narrow. It excludes Engoron himself and I don't think his wife is court staff.

According to the article, Trump also posted that yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

He could shoot her in the middle of 5th avenue and the judge still wouldn't enforce a gag order.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Won't someone rid me of this turbulent judge?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh and don't forget the wife.

And their little dog too

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

So he's trying to tell the DC court of appeals that they should uphold his gag order. Good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

. . . the New York State Witch Hunt Trial aimed at me, my family, and the Republican Party,”

Madness. republiQans you sad, hateful jokes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

An important note:

“The Twitter account with the handel [sic] @dm_sminxs does not belong to me. I do not have a Twitter account. I have never posted any anti Trump messages,” she wrote in an email.

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