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So if someone's religion did not believe "christianity" was a valid religion, they could refuse to give a license to a christian couple.
Be careful what power you give the people, they can use it against you.
This is the only way anything like this changes. Hopefully some folks at city hall will do just this and turn it around on the doofuses.
Kim Davis flashbacks.
TIL She had a meeting with the Pope).
Religious freedom only exists to enforce religion and deny other freedoms.
Yes
Gross.
Satanic Temple, if you're reading this...
Ordained Ministers of Satan can perform weddings...but they're more about proving a point by allowing everyone to do something, rather than by restricting people. So they'd be good ones to go to to officiate marriages if refused elsewere.
@prole @Teon
Unfortunately, one of the conservatives' strategies at play here is they only give "right of conscience" to people with political power over other people.
They aren't giving normal citizens the right to object to anything, they're giving unelected officers the right to torment those beneath them.
And unless you're willing to be as evil to innocent people as they are, you can't fight that war.
In the end what they're destroying here is the rule of law itself.
If I were in a government position in TN that gave out marriage licenses, I would stop giving them to straight couples... It's not evil, it's a protest to make a point.
@prole yeah but you're not. Overwhelmingly the people in position to make use of this ruling are scumbags or genuinely adhering to their duty to disinterested civil service. You might find a tiny fraction who understand and appreciate what you're trying to do and none of them are in a place to punish those responsible.
Only if good people can get into the public offices in the first place.
No cookie for guessing what will the secret interview question to become a marriage officer will be in those States.
“Not if we gerrymander and marginalize them, until our great Leader returns and removes them all.” - (voters who wish to remain anonymous)
In the name of Baphoment, ruler of Satan, prince of darkness, I pronounce you man and whore!
Yes.
Honestly I don't see the problem. If someone wants a religious ceremony then they should agree to the rules of that religion. If they religion doesn't want to do it that should be religious freedom.
If they don't want a religious ceremony then they can get a civil partnership or whatever which is legally the same without the religious marriage. Or go to another religion.
Religion is stupid in my opinion and the more ridiculous it is allowed to be (excluding forcing children or people outside of the religion to do things) then I think fucking go for it, it will allow people to see the ridiculousness and turn people off.
County clerks are an elected position in TN. If someone were to refuse to sanctify Christian unions then they would be out of a job the next election cycle or more likely removed from office.