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[–] merc -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We're apes, even if we're not chimps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But we aren't chimps, and you shouldn't judge the effectiveness of economic structures on what chimps do.

[–] merc -2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nor should you pretend that we're not apes, and that ape behaviour has no relevance to humans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It has about as much relevance as the behavior of any other mammal, circling back to my comment about rats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We could study what various apes do, and try to use that to guess at possible human behaviour - or we could literally just look at human behaviour directly. Surely the direct observations of what humans do is going to give us a more accurate and useful model of human behaviour compared to observations of other species.

[–] merc 3 points 9 months ago

or we could literally just look at human behaviour directly.

And when we do, we'll discover that in many ways it's similar to how other apes behave.

Surely knowing that the behaviour is so ingrained that it's also how apes behave makes it clear that it's not some easy thing to change.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Let me know when you start eating bananas naked in the woods and let me bring my camera.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You're a mammal, a rat is a mammal - should we just consider you the same as a rat?

[–] merc 5 points 9 months ago

We can learn a lot about humans by studying rats. It doesn't mean that humans are the same as rats, but clearly we're not completely different either.