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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Or not. "All VPN and open DNS services must also comply with blocking orders". A VPN provider can't legally sell their services in Italy unless they comply. The best part is: since the govt is blocking websites they can also block providers who doesn't play according to their rules :)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Someone will figure out a way to get around it. People can get a VPN through the great firewall of China, they will get through whatever Italy does as well.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For just a bit more than a VPN subscription, you can rent a VPS and route your traffic through it. Basically, be your own VPN.

Maybe this law will spur innovation and skills in sysadmin, like how people who grew up before smart phones actually had to learn how computers work.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a definite no for moving to italy. They should also be kicked out of the EU for this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I’m not an Italian citizen and I don’t live there.

Their laws do not apply to me. An Italian citizen or resident can go online and buy vpn service from me. There is not law im subjected to that says I can’t sell vpn services to Italians.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I am both but my other comment is kinda getting ignored lol

I don’t even need a vpn to pirate, it’s business as usual.

All this stuff is just for IPTVs that stream soccer matches because Calcio is the king sport here.

The site posted by OP is kinda useless journalism lol. AirVPN quit just for a reason: they are an Italian company. Mullvad, Proton, Quad9… Business as usual.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

An Italian citizen or resident can go online and buy vpn service from me. There is not law im subjected to that says I can’t sell vpn services to Italians.

This isn't true. If you don't comply with the other law regarding the website blocks then the Italian govt will politely ask you to. If your business happens to be on another EU member state they might even try to get your local authorities involved in the asking. Either way, if you don't comply or they can't reach you (cause you're ouside the EU) they'll proceed to block your website / domains in Italy and no more business for you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Being blocked in Italy would be my worst case scenario.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You may face criminal charges if you’re from another EU country. Or if your business is very large the Italian government gets really interested they may be able to ask other govts for help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sure but you'd basically be scamming them as the VPN service wouldn't work because even if you sent them the VPN installer and login it wouldn't connect.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why wouldn’t it connect?

Unless they block my specific IP address then? It will work. And if they block my ip address, then I can just get a new one pretty easily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

FTA: "The list of IP addresses and domain names to be blocked is drawn up by private bodies authorised by AGCOM"

Edit: You're correct, you could run a VPN on your own server and sell access, as this would only block known VPN services.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Could you buy another VPN through a VPN?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Putting performance aside, you can but still raises some legal and billing questions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Not with mullvad it won't

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You just have to self-declare you don't live in Italy.