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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (5 children)

While this is great, someone who doesnt mind paying a 100k for a car wont mind the extra fees.

What would really change the game is changing existing parking spaces to fixed size parking spaces and if your over that you get towed.

That would mean they have to park their car somewhere more remote which would incentisize not buying huge cars to begin with

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I can't speak for Parisians, but here in the us my experience is that it's the people who drove the big cars who bitch the most about the price of gas.

So the added cost would definitely be a disincentive.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a ridiculous thing in the US that Europeans probably don't know about called "rolling coal," where people in big pickup trucks that they never use for hauling anything because it would scrape the bed modify their truck to belch out a huge cloud of black smoke on demand.

I have a Prius. They love doing it to me, because of course a hybrid that still uses gas must mean that I'm one-a them commie tree-hugging hippies. They probably pay as much in gas to do it once as it would take to get my car to go 5-10 miles. And they're the ones putting Biden 'I did that' stickers next to gas pumps when gas prices go up.

Hey rednecks, you know what you have to do to not worry much about gas prices? Buy a fuel-efficient car.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Oh we know, we've seen the videos.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

We drive a Toyota Yaris and bitch about the price of gas.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

It's a gentle nudge.
If you're picking a car, and didn't think about it very much, something like paying more for parking might well nudge you to a smaller car.
And it means when those 100k cars go on the second hand market for 20k a few years later, the people paying that much will not be happy with the fees.

On a slight tangent, range rovers are being targeted by criminals. To the point where RR ups the security, and it's worked around in a month or so.
This has lead to insurance premiums going way up. And while there are a few people just choking down the payments, others are switching away from RR, or from SUVs entirely.
It doesn't put every customer off, but it certainly affects a chunk.

[–] FlorianSimon 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not saying this is what you're saying, but the average french SUV doesn't cost 100k. In-laws bought one almost new for 15k. They're not poor, but definitely not rich, and would think twice about buying one next time if it means they pay more for parking.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

15k seems like a Dacia Duster. That isn't considered a SUV according to the limits of that law (1400 kg)

It's more to limit those useless monsters like the range Rovers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is a 1401kg 5 door EV considered an SUV?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

For electric vehicles the weight needs to be over 2000kg in order to be considered a SUV

[–] FlorianSimon 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's an Opel something, as I said I'm not an expert in shitty cars 😁

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

i guess it's an opel mokka, which is a fatter opel corsa with the same specs except being heavier and less efficient

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

15k for an almost new SUV? I think you are probably confusing a CUV with an SUV

[–] FlorianSimon 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

15k € used. The (french) car dealer called the car a SUV, but I'll admit I'm not an expert.

But even if you call that something different, there aren't a lot of 100k SUVs in France, I can tell you that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

French people will drive a 20 year old kangoo and be proud of it. I know because that is me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While this is great, someone who doesnt mind paying a 100k for a car wont mind the extra fees.

Not just that, it removes the.. let's call it 'shame factor'. Some people that would feel bad about driving big, polluting cars in the city now will feel perfectly justified: they are paying extra for the privilege. This will not reduce the number of cars and likely will increase it. It's simply a bad policy. As you said, number of parking spots for big cars should be reduced each year putting greater and greater pressure on the owners to get rid of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

and if your over that you get towed.

A neighbor of mine who was a 60 something year old accountant got one of those oversized pickups and managed to block my space multiple times since he couldn't angle it in correctly.