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[–] [email protected] 118 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

It's so weird that this is the statement that makes some of his supporters question his sanity or ability to form and communicate coherent thoughts...I would say there's a trail of breadcrumbs of much more damning statements going back as far as you're willing to look, but it's more like a trail of roach-infested bakeries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

When the road is made of breadcrumbs, you can't really make them out anymore

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s so weird that this is the statement that makes some of his supporters question his sanity

Where are you getting this from?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From this, but maybe I'm inferring wrongly by connecting the "comments were negative" with the headline?

The former president said earlier in the day that people throughout his life have compared his looks to those of the King of Rock and Roll. Even on Truth Social, the ex-president's own social media network, the comments were negative in some instances.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh I see. I guess I figured these were plenty of non supporters on truth social. Even if just these to troll. So I didn't read that as supporters attacking him for it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Biden is on Truth Social. And, at least at one point, he had more followers on it than Trump.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/biden-truth-social-followers-trump

And yes, Biden uses it to troll Trump.

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-campaign-ridicules-donald-trump-truth-social-1866030

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So, basically, interpreting that comment as saying supporters are attacking him for this doesn't hold water.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean it may be true. That person who asked where Ivanka is and why she isn't doing anything about it sounds like a Trump supporter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“OMFG [Ivanka Trump where the hell are you?!?!?!? Politics aside do something FFS,” the user, Jil, wrote.

Does that really sound like someone who isn't planning to vote for Trump?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, not at all. "Politics aside" is used when you disagree with someone on politics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So you think a Biden voter would want Ivanka to step in to make Trump a better candidate?

Why would she want that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So you think a Biden voter would want Ivanka to step in to make Trump a better candidate?

No, I think it's just an insult.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So a Biden voter is insulting Trump by begging his daughter to help him with his campaign?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

She didn't say anything about his campaign. If we're talking about him having dementia, which is what this whole thing is about, then Jil is probably telling her to get help with that. But the reality is that Jil probably doesn't care and this is just an insult.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just don't understand how asking Ivanka to "do something FFS" is either an insult or a request for medical help. Neither of those claims make any sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just don’t understand how asking Ivanka to “do something FFS” is either an insult or a request for medical help.

The whole thing is about him having dementia. It's the context. How can that not make sense? How does making up it being about the campaign make more sense?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

She didn't say anything about dementia. If she wanted to insult him about having dementia, why didn't she mention the dementia?

It makes more sense for it being about the campaign because, again, she is begging Ivanka to help Trump. It doesn't matter if she says "politics aside." Only a Trump supporter would want that rapist seditious wannabe dictator to get help. Because helping him helps him win. That should be blatantly obvious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If she wanted to insult him about having dementia, why didn’t she mention the dementia?

If she wanted to help his campaign, why didn't she mention the campaign? We're both inferring what she was referring to, so the double-edged nature of this question should be patently obvious. I'm a little shocked it was even asked.

It makes more sense for it being about the campaign because, again, she is begging Ivanka to help Trump.

This is included as an example in an article that starts with "Donald Trump on Saturday was hit with an avalanche of criticism." The author of the article pretty clearly agrees with me. Additionally, you are ignoring the "politics aside" part of the comment which strongly implies there is a differing of politics here that Jil wants to transcend. You are required to infer both the context and the content of the post itself for your position to be true, so it certainly does not make more sense.

Because helping him helps him win.

It's facetious. She doesn't expect it to happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We’re both inferring what she was referring to

...

It’s facetious. She doesn’t expect it to happen.

How can you state that as if it is fact after saying the above?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I figured it was safe from the context that I wouldn't have to repeat what we were talking about every time. But I guess I should have seen super pedanticism coming in this debate, rather than working together to try and get to the truth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You seem to believe you already know the truth.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, obviously I do. Which is why I took a position. The fact that you nit-picked my language, and are now trying to make this about me, makes it pretty clear your goal is simply to get a win at this point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I see, you know the truth but I can only infer things and I am definitely wrong but am defending my position because I want to "get a win."

Interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The Trump fans mostly follow Trump’s personal account which is automatically added to your follow list when you sign up there, they don’t have much reason to seek out the Team Trump campaign account. Biden’s audience is tiny on that platform compared to Trump’s audience.