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[–] [email protected] 145 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Imagine using Chrome in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (22 children)

I have found a lot of websites over the last few months acting up if I'm using Firefox.

I have chrome for work and if I switch they work flawlessly. It's small things like menus not expanding or elements not loading.

There's a push on unifying browsers.

I've been Firefox and duckduckgo for years and it's getting a bit annoying. Obviously the trade off is worth it I do not want the big tech products but finding good alternatives is getting hard.

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Everyone says “problems with websites in Firefox!”

Nobody has examples

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I use Firefox on Linux and FreeBSD for my daily driver.

I was not able to book flights on Thai airways website 6 months ago until I loaded it in chrome/chromium instead.

It's really really rare imo but that's one example in recent history.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That sounds more like an issue with them using some proprietary browser bullshit than a problem with Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But what, practically, is the difference? If more and more websites use shit that only works in Chrome or Chromium based browsers, the effect is the same. The web doesn't work as well for Firefox users.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

One is a browser following web standards and the other is a shitty company adding non-standards based development features intended to lock users into there browsers.

It was shitty when Microsoft did the non-standard features to lock in with Internet Exporer and it is shitty that Chrome does it now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It's shitty for sure, and I definitely think Chrome needs to die, or at least have better competition. Sadly, not enough users are using non-chromium browsers, that they don't see a problem with using chrome only features. It sucks, and it's going to lead (is leading) to the further enshitification of the web. I'm doing my part by using Firefox, and any web application I develop is guaranteed to work in Firefox.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Not a very big website, but the service my therapist uses for teletherapy doesn't support anything outside of chromium.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

try switching your user agent. it'll likely work fine.

red medical will act up if you don't use a chromium browser.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Wow, that random news article I hit 16 days ago where the page kept flickering and reloading, but didn't do that when I copied the URL into Brave... I really should've recorded that domain so I could defend myself against some stranger online!

Sarcasm aside, I don't think it's generally the major websites that you bump into this with, however, there are many edge cases that occur for plenty of folks, whether they're in college and have to use that "secure browser" extension that only supports Chrome, or the fact that some websites, especially in business, that simply refuse to support browser and will prevent access otherwise.

I'm a Firefox user, so this isn't to say that Chromium is the way by any means, but hopefully to shine a little light on the fact that we're all on different parts of the web with different experiences, questioning their experiences so that you can hopefully find an extension or something to pin the blame them does not absolve them of their experience, just a show of elitism.

Firefox HAS gotten much better, but unfortunately, Capitalism's gonna Capitalism

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh, and I can't seem to get tiktok videos to play on Firefox on Android? Not a major issue, but my sister keeps sending them to me in particular for some reason, so...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always had TikTok blocked so I maybe o idea about that

Also a privacy browser not allowing the least private thing ever? Colour me shocked

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I mean, yeah. I'm none too bothered by that one, but it's still an example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yup I've noticed that too. I don't have tiktok personally but I get links from friends and sometimes I have to open them in the duckduckgo browser (chromium based)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I couldn't submit a support ticket for id.me (the IRS' stupid commercial partner for Identity verification) when using Firefox, the submit button literally did not work. Worked fine when switching to edge (blegh).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Example: The meeting webservice my bank uses is for whatever reason blocked for Firefox. Not sure if they just User-Agent check but they consciously block out Firefox users. I alerted my bank person about that but I doubt that's going to be any different next time I have a meeting with them.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It happens rarely to me, and when it does 99/100 its the adblocker blocking something it shouldnt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The search in the Walmart site has only been working on and off (mostly off) in Firefox, but consistently in Chrome. There's also some webpages for my university that only work in Chrome

Edit: looks like the Walmart search is working now though for me. The only reason I even have duckduckgo browser is because walmart.com was giving me issues on Firefox

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I just gave you an example of menus not expanding.

I'm not dogging Firefox I'm saying there is a consorted effort made to reduce it's usefulness.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I remember whipping out Vivaldi (which is Chrome-based) for booking a ticket on the Interrail website: https://www.interrail.eu/en

I haven’t fiddled much with weaker privacy/ad-blocking settings though, because I didn’t have the patience for that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I was about to say this. I never find any websites that doesnt work with Firefox so I'm genuinely curious.

I bet it's their ad blocker, or they have set their Firefox settings to the privacy level that says "this will break some web sites".

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

Not as much as Google though, so I've been feeling like it's been getting better and better, but it's just a comparative feeling.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To me it's worrying because it is where Google was when I jumped ship for DDG.

I am getting tailored results that I do not want. Everything I search even with location off gives me local to very local responses.

If I open a link and then go back to the results page all the results have changed order.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Huh, never heard of this before. Thank you for mentioning it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Firefox + uBlock Origin and I have no issues with any websites.

Which ones are you having issues with and what is happening?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

their workplace is probably developing whatever website they use for chrome exclusively, mine does that too and it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

You have to complain if your work does chrome specific stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Sometimes those websites lied that they don't support Firefox. For example, google meet didn't support background blur on Firefox? Change the user agent to chrome and it suddenly worked!

As for simple stuff such as menu or elements not loading, it's usually the dev copy pasted outdated code/css that uses WebKit/Bink-specific prefix even though Firefox already support them if they removed the prefix. Nothing we can do about that except pestering the dev to fix it or overriding it yourself using some css overrides extension.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

They talk about it doing this for Firefox too.

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