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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Everyone says “problems with websites in Firefox!”

Nobody has examples

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I use Firefox on Linux and FreeBSD for my daily driver.

I was not able to book flights on Thai airways website 6 months ago until I loaded it in chrome/chromium instead.

It's really really rare imo but that's one example in recent history.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That sounds more like an issue with them using some proprietary browser bullshit than a problem with Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But what, practically, is the difference? If more and more websites use shit that only works in Chrome or Chromium based browsers, the effect is the same. The web doesn't work as well for Firefox users.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

One is a browser following web standards and the other is a shitty company adding non-standards based development features intended to lock users into there browsers.

It was shitty when Microsoft did the non-standard features to lock in with Internet Exporer and it is shitty that Chrome does it now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It's shitty for sure, and I definitely think Chrome needs to die, or at least have better competition. Sadly, not enough users are using non-chromium browsers, that they don't see a problem with using chrome only features. It sucks, and it's going to lead (is leading) to the further enshitification of the web. I'm doing my part by using Firefox, and any web application I develop is guaranteed to work in Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

100% this. People loose the wood for the trees with these kinds of things. If something doesn't work in one browser but does in another then 99% of people are not technical enough to understand or care why not. They just know it doesn't work. That makes it a problem for Firefox. Whether it's by their own making or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Very possible and even probable that they're using some chrome specific behaviour. Just like back in late 90s early noughts when so many websites were IE specific making is impossible to use without a windows installation. The effect is though that unfortunately Firefox isn't usable everywhere. Sometimes you need chrome for some specific websites. This is especially true for some self hosted "enterprise" web apps, I need chrome for one of those too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not a very big website, but the service my therapist uses for teletherapy doesn't support anything outside of chromium.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

try switching your user agent. it'll likely work fine.

red medical will act up if you don't use a chromium browser.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wow, that random news article I hit 16 days ago where the page kept flickering and reloading, but didn't do that when I copied the URL into Brave... I really should've recorded that domain so I could defend myself against some stranger online!

Sarcasm aside, I don't think it's generally the major websites that you bump into this with, however, there are many edge cases that occur for plenty of folks, whether they're in college and have to use that "secure browser" extension that only supports Chrome, or the fact that some websites, especially in business, that simply refuse to support browser and will prevent access otherwise.

I'm a Firefox user, so this isn't to say that Chromium is the way by any means, but hopefully to shine a little light on the fact that we're all on different parts of the web with different experiences, questioning their experiences so that you can hopefully find an extension or something to pin the blame them does not absolve them of their experience, just a show of elitism.

Firefox HAS gotten much better, but unfortunately, Capitalism's gonna Capitalism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I couldn't submit a support ticket for id.me (the IRS' stupid commercial partner for Identity verification) when using Firefox, the submit button literally did not work. Worked fine when switching to edge (blegh).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I never had a problem verifying on Firefox a few years back so maybe it's a more recent bug?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh, and I can't seem to get tiktok videos to play on Firefox on Android? Not a major issue, but my sister keeps sending them to me in particular for some reason, so...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yup I've noticed that too. I don't have tiktok personally but I get links from friends and sometimes I have to open them in the duckduckgo browser (chromium based)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always had TikTok blocked so I maybe o idea about that

Also a privacy browser not allowing the least private thing ever? Colour me shocked

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I mean, yeah. I'm none too bothered by that one, but it's still an example.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Example: The meeting webservice my bank uses is for whatever reason blocked for Firefox. Not sure if they just User-Agent check but they consciously block out Firefox users. I alerted my bank person about that but I doubt that's going to be any different next time I have a meeting with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure that's not an ad/tracker-blocking issue?

I've seen this on twitch, for example. Trying to log in with trackers blocked will throw up a dialog saying "your browser is not supported," but if you allow tracking, it works fine. And once logged in, you can block trackers again and the site continues to work normally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Nope they explicitly state in their support forums that they do not support Firefox and the Error Message you get recommends using Edge or Chrome. This is not an Ad-Block problem

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I was about to say this. I never find any websites that doesnt work with Firefox so I'm genuinely curious.

I bet it's their ad blocker, or they have set their Firefox settings to the privacy level that says "this will break some web sites".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The search in the Walmart site has only been working on and off (mostly off) in Firefox, but consistently in Chrome. There's also some webpages for my university that only work in Chrome

Edit: looks like the Walmart search is working now though for me. The only reason I even have duckduckgo browser is because walmart.com was giving me issues on Firefox

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I just gave you an example of menus not expanding.

I'm not dogging Firefox I'm saying there is a consorted effort made to reduce it's usefulness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just gave you an example of menus not expanding.

I haven't come across a menu that didn't expand in Firefox. Which website(s) have this issue in Firefox?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It was a local regulatory site that didn't work on mobile, I did the desktop toggle and it worked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It happens rarely to me, and when it does 99/100 its the adblocker blocking something it shouldnt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I remember whipping out Vivaldi (which is Chrome-based) for booking a ticket on the Interrail website: https://www.interrail.eu/en

I haven’t fiddled much with weaker privacy/ad-blocking settings though, because I didn’t have the patience for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

MS Teams. Works for chat, but not for receiving audio/video calls/meetings.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can think of 2 websites that didn't work right over the past 10 Yeats. Both were credit card payment sites and just had weird issues like couldn't hit the submit button. I figured it out and just used edge for them. I never found any site that I use often that has issues yet.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Create any website with an element that is fixed on the bottom of the page and try to move the page in the mobile Firefox then.