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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Living near a nuclear plant.

Little do they know, that they get more than 50x more radiation effect from the natural surroundings and the rocks in earth than from the nuclear plant 🀭 And our body is really capable of dealing with that since the beginning of our evolution (DNA repairs and co).

https://pages.vassar.edu/ltt/files/2011/04/Screen-shot-2011-04-21-at-1.18.09-AM1.png

here is a chart showing radiation intensities for various sources of radiation

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Living near a coal plant, on the other hand, is really, REALLY bad for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's not the background radiation that worries people, it's the risk of a Fukushima-type incident.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ehhhh, those are the ancient light water designs. Fuck light water, even though it's actually pretty safe. Advanced sodium reactors are where it's at. One loop is molten salt and nuclear fuel. The salt makes it less dense so it can't melt down like a traditional reactor. A second loop of salt is what steals heat from the fuel, which loops around to a water boiler further away. In essence, it's airgapped. While corrosion can be an issue, the lack of water in the salt loops helps a ton.

Solar towers with molten salt generators also work in the same way. The salts are molten and continue pumping out power for 12 hours after the sun has set, which makes them an excellent source of power for cities :)

I'd live next to a nuclear plant any day of the week! Especially if the homes are less expensive because of it :D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

While the modern technology is relatively safe, it’s not a technical issue with the reactor design. It’s a trust issue with the humans, particularly for-profit companies, that operate it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woah, this one is actually surprising to me. Even though I am in favour of nuclear power, I do have some fear of living in close proximity of such plants, especially seeing how even the clothing used in the facility is mixed into the barrels of radioactive wastes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you rather the clothing get washed at your local cleaners? Or washed on-site and the water drained into the city sewers?

Seems like a sensible precaution

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you are correct. It is just that it never occurred to me how careful they take their operations to be. That is why I assumed they would even disallow residential buildings to be built close to them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While true when everything works, people don’t want to live near a nuclear power plant because sometimes there are accidents. They are rare, but severe when they happen. Also because nobody wants to live in sight of one, it affects how easy it is to sell land and property.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The probability of such accidents are waaaay to overestimated by the general population. Take a look at this: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/death-rates-from-energy-production-per-twh

it shows the deaths per kWh for various sources of energy. Nuclear power is really as safe as wind and solar. Nuclear power is sooooo safe honestly. But coal? We have global climate change, dirty air, smog, .... and radioactive materials in the atmosphere due to the coal πŸ˜… Fun fact: Way more radioactive materials are spewed into the atmosphere due to burning coal than is actually by nuclear power plants.

The human emotions are waaaay too inaccurate in this situation here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not disagreeing. We need more nuclear. Just saying people are scared of a major event than the constant low grade radiation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere that suggested that background radiation is actually (ever so) slightly lower near a nuclear plant, because all the shielding effectively casts a 'shadow' in the background.