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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I can tell you don’t watch CNN or MSNBC because they totally are questioning things and are highly critical of Netanyahu, who is basically Israeli George W Bush. Young people can vote for who they want to vote for, but if they all toss their votes in the trash for a Russian plant like RFK Jr, I will be blaming them for the repercussions of a second Trump term as equally as I would blame his brainwashed cult.

[–] Tremble 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They don’t care who you blame.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They also know that the blame will come with any loss, no matter how they vote.

[–] Tremble 1 points 10 months ago

The funny thing is that close to 2/3rds (more on many issues) of Americans actually support the policies that are on the far left (of American politics).

But because we have all been watching corporate media that is literally lying to us, we have been lead to believe that we don’t actually believe what we actually believe.

When you starting breaking down the policies and explain them in simple details, (should we all have healthcare), america is far left when it comes to policies we ALL support.

But ask a Republican if they like “Obamacare” and you will get a completely different answer. This is assuming we are not discussing policy minutiae within Obamacare just Obamacare in general….. and it is pretty much like this across the board….

America is FAR more leftist than the corporate oligarchy would have you believe.

But instead of burning down buildings because of police brutality, low wages, and lack of even the most basic social safety net…..

We are arguing over whether rail workers should get one hour of sick time a year….

It’s fucking ludicrous.

And I know y’all don’t like it…. A vote for a Biden is a vote for more of the same corrupt politics, corporate PACS and corporate donations and the revolving door of senators being bribed for their votes and lining their own pockets.

Y’all are arguing about whether a facist will be our leader, but we already live under a corporate oligarchy…

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's okay, many of them will learn when the fascists turn on empathetic people like them, people like their LGBTQIA+ friends, and an ever more purity-shifting test stupider than a swatch of paint held to their faces.

Because people (maybe some like you?) don't explain nuance and responsibility to them, just throw blame around and make noises about where all of the fault lays (it's never also on your--metaphorical you, I hope--laps is it?) and why this agenda is better and would not lead to this or that.

You don't need to address me if you prefer of course. I don't actually foresee any useful dialogue here so just yelling at two-faced clouds.

[–] Tremble 0 points 10 months ago

Happy new year…. Not avoiding anyone but yea,

These arguments about lesser of two evils, oh it’s not Biden’s fault he couldn’t do anything, oh (the Republican candidate) is going to bring facism.

People are tired of the same tired rhetoric. They don’t care. They aren’t going to just fall in line because you are shouting at them vote blue no matter who.

And a lot of career politicians don’t understand that the old way of doing things isn’t going to work anymore. It’s a slow change and yea hopefully we can claw back democracy from the corporate oligarchy, but I personally don’t have much faith. I probably will not vote for Biden but I do live in a pretty solid blue state in an extremely blue county, so i can leave President option blank without much recourse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I do watch MSNBC on occasion. They slobbed Israels knob clear up until they killed like 13,000 people. That was apparently the line.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's around the time israel murdered the hostages in cold blood that the likes of MSNBC was like "Wait a minute... maybe israel isn't telling the truth when they say everyone killed is a Hamas soldier?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yup, thousands of murdered brown children were fine for MSNBC, but three young Jews getting murdered while trying to surrender to their own military is where the moral outrage starts. It's pathetically transparent why they suddenly saw this as problematic.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

How is he a Russian plant? He's related to one of the most influential political dynasties in America. During the Obama years he was the left's sweetheart when he was championing for the environment. Even going so far as calling for Exxon Mobil and Koch Industries to be put to 'corporate death'.

Biden and Trump love Exxon and sucking Koch. Maybe you should blame yourself for trusting soundbites.