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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

I'm not a libertarian, I'm a social democrat.

The last century has been a total and unmitigated disaster for Argentina. The two options Argentinians had in this election were:

  1. More of the same by the guy who oversaw inflation reaching 160% (100% chance of things getting worse)
  2. A total wild card (99.9% chance of things getting worse)

Unsurprisingly, they went for the latter. I don't think anti-libertarians get to gloat in this context, given it's the Argentinian establishment which has overseen one of the most remarkable examples of total state-collapse and economic failure in modern history.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This makes a lot of sense if you pretend he didn't say or promise anything during the campaign.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

The calculation shouldn't be "chance of things getting worse", but "expected value of how much worse it'll get".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't actually know anything. But casually to me it looked like a choice between 160% chance of it getting worse and a 300% chance of getting worse. And it's not very surprising at all in these circumstances many go for the latter for all sorts of reasons (and delusions). But I don't actually know anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You should probably read at least a little about Argentina's recent history before commenting then...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago
  1. More of the same by the guy who oversaw inflation reaching 160% (100% chance of things getting worse)
  2. A total wild card (99.9% chance of things getting much worse)

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's bad math. Yes, if you put the same people in office. There's nearly 100% chance that they will continue doing what they have been doing. Good or bad. But if you put a lunatic with a grudge against reality in office. Who is aligned, or would align himself with the people who caused the problem before. You have 150% chance that things will get worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You have 150% chance

This isn’t exactly the best math either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, it was a jab at the logic. Things can always get worse. Always. Change for the sake of change is a bad proposition. So now the people causing the problems before aren't in direct control. They have a go between patsy. Poised to push awful social oppression openly that they'd likely only thought about in wet dreams. And a large chunk of misguided populous supporting it. Because "it's different".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Mate one dude was hearing voices and talks with his deceased dogs...how can you say "wild card" with a straight face?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oof, yeah that's not a good choice.

[–] MarcoPOLO -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Argentina could've just gone for a new currency again

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Wouldn’t solve anything.