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You have to convince him first it is what he wants to do. He seems very fixated on being a cyber criminal at this time and money is unlikely to sway him.
He can learn once he understands the repercussions of his actions. Remember that he's an autistic teenager, he has a lot to learn about life and especially morality.
He'll learn great lessons in jail! /S
That’s why he’s in a prison hospital instead. I think they are called psyche wards or mental institutes in some places.
And all he has to do to get out of there is calm down and lie.
The fact he can't control himself enough to get through court without crowing on about his intent to do more crime speaks to a lack of self control, and for that reason alone, his skills are moot in any discussion of his future prospects.
Yep could easily turn coat and sell to highest bidder.
Not every country is like the us
Especially in Europe a lot of them try to better people instead of punishing them and many have special institutions for teenagers that are my like psychiatric wards than prisons
His career in white hat cybersecurity is shot to fuck. No one will trust him enough after this
Well, considering the UK is not interested in helping him, and you’re probably right, we should perhaps be more concerned with Russia or a similar country picking him up for state sponsored cyberattacks or some shit.
Kid seems to be in it for the chaos and notoriety. That could cause quite a bit of harm in the right state environment.
Mostly true in normal cases. If you’re really talented there is a market for you, always. Idk if he falls in the category, and most cyber criminals have no shot at white hat anything but given his age and his feats I think he might be an exception.
In this case, that market is the black market. In the regular market, no head of security wants to be responsible for a potential critical breach by hiring such a wild cannon.
His only possible path would have been to show remorse after the attacks. He shot that in the ass, or at least made his job much harder in that respect, by pulling another attack while in police custody.
Remember when a company's head of security was fired and prosecuted for ordering a pentest against his own company, which is a normal thing that good heads of security do?
running unauthorised pentests does indeed get people fired. Along with getting their managers in hot water for letting their pentesters be loose cannons. And if they're attacking someone else while on company time, the company can be in serious legal trouble too.
it is rather customary for heads to roll when critical data is leaked as part of an insider attack, especially when said attack was enabled by negligent practices.
Just incase you've forgotten that randomly attacking people and leaking data is this kid's MO.
I think you're vastly underestimating what a big stack of green can do for the morals of an 18 yo.
An 18 yo isn't gonna get fat stacks of green as a pentester.
The suits that decide salaries have different priorities. Like certs that are out of the price range of a teenager and years of professional experience.
Yea, but the nerds that the suits put in charge of security will absolutely recognize this kids skills. The suits don't run the security teams at most corpos. There would be no security that way. Management is pretty hands off with them, at least from my experience working at corpos.
They will also recognise how much of a potential threat he is.
The suits absolutely do run the security teams. Very indirectly, but they do. The suits are the ones security teams have to persuade to get any sort of funding and they can and will veto a hiring decision like this.
You are correct that in most places, the suits do not usually directly intervene. Usually there is a lead guy in the security team that handles the conversations with the suits.
In a well functioning security unit, there is some trust there but not nearly enough to hire a kid like this. A veto is seen as a politically risky manoeuvre for a suit but it would absolutely be pulled for the prospect of hiring this kid, with some frankly compelling justification that any team lead would find nearly impossible to get around.
I've worked in several corporations in several security teams in the past, some amazing, some god-awful with insane suit meddling.