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The infuriating part here is that there are still people the think climate change is a hoax, even though we see the first effects right here, right now. Last year was similar. I remember it being like 16 degrees on New Year's Eve. Fucking madness...
The first effects could be witnessed thirty years ago. But it's becoming increasingly difficult to ignore. That's why the fossil fuel industry has moved the goal posts and introduced the "climate change is of all times, it's not caused by us" talking point, as demonstrated by Victor. But Victor is behind the times, the new one is "yes, we caused it but it's not a big deal".
a few years back in Sydney Australia it was 40 deg C Christmas eve and then 12 deg Christmas day. Absolutely crazy.
I don't think climate change is a hoax. But from what I hear the major cause for it being carbon dioxide ~~alone~~ is not really true. Now, I can't remember what evidence there was, so please, a grain of salt. But I do trust the person who said it, so, when I have more time in life I intend to find out more. But it's not like I can do anything to revert the misinformation at this point, should it turn out to be a hoax. The media has already cemented it, and any scientists going against the grain today will lose all credibility, because "the science is done" on this (even though that is very unscientific in and of itself).
That's why no scientist ever said the cause is carbon dioxide alone. Anybody who says that to sow distrust in the scientific community is the one that is not trustworthy.
Yes, no, you're right. What I meant to say was that the status quo is that carbon dioxide is the dominant cause for global warming.
That's what I've been shown not to be the case. My source has been plowing through a lot of scientific books and publications, which I have not, so this is only hearsay unfortunately.
I think people usually use the term "Greenhouse Gasses" because it's an umbrella term for the other compounds like methane that do the same thing (except it doesn't taste as good when dissolved in your soda).
I hope your source is on this train of thought and not something about secret Nazi's melting the ice caps to establish a base and awaken Mega-Hitler from his slumber.
No no no 😆 They are definitely of sound mind and going by scientific results only, peer reviewed shit. They have worked a lifetime in academia so would not compromise their own sources. That is why I trust them.
You don't lose credibility for going against the grain, you become a superstar... You just have to have compelling evidence.
All the cases I've seen of people who complain about this aren't being ridiculed for 'revealing the truth', but for doing shoddy research and sticking by it.
Well that's comforting.
My source has definitely done proper research into the scientific results, bypassing all mass media. So I trust them for now. But obviously I have a lot of my own research to do.