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Over 50 per cent of users may shun social media by 2025 as misinformation, toxicity grow::A Gartner survey found that 53 per cent of consumers believe the current state of social media has decayed compared to either the prior year or five years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (2 children)

let all social media die in flames.

its nothing but a cancer on society and counts among the worst ills to befall mankind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

So, uh, why do you post here?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

Because Lemmy is a forum, not social media.

Forums are a thing from the archaic ages before you kids thought phones were the only way to be online. 👴

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

For what it's worth, I agree with you about Lemmy (and Reddit) not really qualifying as "social media." I think of it more as a spectrum than a binary value...

  • Old school forums were very specific to a single topic (though most forums I used did have an "Off Topic" board), and only lightly social -- I never knew any forum user outside of their respective forum, and certainly not in real life.
  • On the opposite end, Facebook/Insta/TikTok are very social -- there's a lot of expectation that you'll be interacting with people that you know personally -- and they are more "agnostic" (?) of any one particular topic.
  • Reddit and Lemmy land somewhere in between those two extremes, in terms of both the social and topical aspects. But neither cross the line into "social media," at least not for me and my personal definition of the term.

And just to split hairs even a little more, I think Lemmy is more palatable* than Reddit for me, by virtue of the smaller (and generally more tech-savvy) user base.

E: Spelling (thank you, WelcomeBear!)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I just wanted to mention that I got a chuckle out of the word “pallettable” because it’s not quite right but I totally see how you got there. I thought you might like to know that the word is “palatable.”
A palette is the board that a painter uses to hold paint, a pallet is something you pick up with a forklift and a palate is the roof of your mouth/your tasting skill. So something that’s pallettable sounds like something tasty that you’d smear all over a giant board and forklift onto a truck.
Fucking English, lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Lemmy definitely has a younger and less experienced, educated user base.

Tech-savy, yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You kids, ha. I'm hitting 40 soon, and Lemmy is absolutely as much social media as Reddit is, just different scale and technological underpinning. Don't be high and mighty about it, you can easily burn as much time scrolling through Lemmy communities.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Being able to burn time on something doesnt make it social media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, but he's right, it is, and they are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is a media that allows you to be social.

Forums are also social media.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

by that definition bathroom walls are social media.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Tbh the discourse of bathroom graffiti is typically better than that of FB

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They are social, a busy bar bathroom? You'll make a friend for life in there. There's little media though. Unless they have TVs inside the bathroom/stalls, and I wouldn't really count music since the focus isn't the music but doing your business.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, you can make it social with a large drill bit through the stall walls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I like how you think that's a clever rebuttal, when it's actually correct.

Social medium, but close enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's like saying Twitter isn't social media because its a microblog. Lemmy is definitely social media. We have profiles, can add each other as friends, send private messages, etc. It's not structured the same as most other social media websites, but it is social media

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I love how angry the truth makes Lemmy users.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lEMmy iS a FORum!

🤦 ffs. you really are dumb as shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Boy you really just love stalking my posts and replying to me everywhere dont you.

I know you miss your daddy and need a new, strong figure in your life. but its not me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

it's the same post, you retard.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No matter how much you rationalise it, forum is still a social media. You are still socialising after all-- in a medium of communication. You can still post pictures in forums if you want, but modern social platforms just have better UI and convenience to post videos and photos than older forums.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

By your definition even email is social media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, because email is point to point. Ffs. 🤦

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

by your inability to know what social media is, it is impossible for you to converse on the topic.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, people have been sending mails before just for fun. Hence the phenomenon of "penpals".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think people miss the keyword "social".

[–] Jax 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think people should read more about media theory. Especially "The Medium is The Message".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but email isn't "media", while being a medium.

Lemmy & forums are social media.

Email is not.

However... Mailing lists (where all member have publishing rights) may make me rethink and retract this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Saying you post on Lemmy/Forums, so it must be social media

Is like trying to argue that raw shit is food, because you can pick it up with a spoon and put it in your mouth.

You are stretching your point so fucking far, that anything from clay tablets to facebook is included under the umbrella, When you and everyone else knows (despite the inability of some to admit it) that social media is a very specific thing, that conjures a very specific idea when you are talking about it, and that very specific idea is generally facebook/twitter, where very specific kind of posts are made, typically linked to your real life face/name/life/business. Posts that you don't generally make on forums, because when you post on forums you are posting in reference to the topic of the forum, because no one there gives a shit about your fake tits, fake tan or fake vacation picture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you fucking retard.

interacting with other people is "social".

the word "social" isn't defined by, or have anything to do with holiday photos you spoon.

is content submitted by users as opposed to site owners only? that's social media.

hopefully you learnt something today, but given what a stupid piece of shit you seem to be, I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You keep shoveling that shit in your mouth while insisting its the worlds most delicious food.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know, when I first started to become active on Internet communities as a preteen in the early-to-mid-2000s, I don't think anyone really used the term "social media" to describe them. The term may have existed already, but I didn't think of myself as a user of "social media" at all at the time.

At the time we had web forums run on software like phpBB. Later I discovered wikis and blogs. I have no idea when people started to insist on using the strange term "social media" which may or may not include all those things. Is Reddit/Lemmy "social media"? It certainly differs from most other "social media" in significant ways: we mostly don't use our real names, we don't have followers, we mainly communicate with random strangers rather than the people we know IRL. This is a lot more similar to traditional web forums than to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X/Mastodon, etc.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is still very similar. Reddit and Lemmy are now primarily fluff content. I've had to block dozens of fluff subs on Lemmy. And misinformation and toxic/unintelligent users are a problem here too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

fluff

Low-quality, mindless content designed to keep mindless people infinitely scrolling.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Think of this like one of those steam reviews: 4,000 hours played, do not recommend

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Opinion only applies to others' habits.