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The 18-year-old Lapsus$ hacker who played a critical role in leaking Grand Theft Auto VI footage has been sentenced to life inside a hospital prison, according to a report from the BBC. A British judge ruled on Thursday that Arion Kurtaj is a high risk to the public because he still wants to commit cybercrimes.

In August, a London jury found that Kurtaj carried out cyberattacks against GTA VI developer Rockstar Games and other companies, including Uber and Nvidia. However, since Kurtaj has autism and was deemed unfit to stand trial, the jury was asked to determine whether he committed the acts in question, not whether he did so with criminal intent.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's not prison, it's some sort of prison hospital. But still, life is the exact opposite end of the spectrum compared to a light sentence. Like you said, rehabilitation should be the goal, and imposing life sentences on 18 year olds is not how you make that happen.

He only got a life sentence because he made corporations look bad IMO. Not because of him saying he'd do it again.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, he didn't even get a life sentence. That's in the headline, I know, but it's just not true.

He's in the hospital indefinitely, not sentenced to life. There's a big fat or clause that completely undermines the "life sentence".

He’s required to stay in the hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he’s no longer a danger.

I'm not really sure what anyone thinks WOULD be just and proper in this kind of situation. I don't know many details of this particular case, but if there has been due process that determines someone is unsafe to release into society because they lack social capacity, releasing them anyway hardly seems like justice.

I'd like to believe -- though I know it basically isn't true -- that the justice system exists for the sake of justice. That it is primarily concerned with making whole the victims and making sure the criminals are rehabilitated such that they can safely rejoin society and even contribute to it in the future. I think that's how the justice system should work in a fair and just world. But if you have someone who is actually incapable of rejoining society, what are you supposed to do?

If we want to focus on the awfulness of this situation, I don't think the sentence is the issue. I think the focus would need to be on whether or not the hospital treatment has any chance of being effective -- because if it doesn't, THAT'S the story that matters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Who exactly was victimized here? Who was harmed and in what way? God the capitalist bootlicking is insane. Seriously arguing for taking away a neurodivergent person's agency because some game spoilers got released. Not a good look.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It’s not actually a life sentence, it’s a sentence until he is cured.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Autism isn't a free pass to do whatever you like without consequences. Most people manage to be autistic without cybercrime and violence, or telling the judge they intend to commit more crimes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, the desire/inability to not continue to commit crimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Nhs mental health services isn't going to do that.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No one gets "cured" of autism.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Not of autism damnit. His desire/inability not to continue to commit crimes.

Don’t try to twist me

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel like just saying this is autism, is insulting to people with autism? The violent acts the article said he did can't just be attributed to autism.

Like the OP wants to compare this to law enforcement crimes where it's about what someone has done, whereas this is about medical hospitalization because of what someone is currently doing

Like he's an active, physical threat. The cybercrimes are very secondary to what is going on.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I'm getting bothered by this too. My brother had a pretty bad case of autism, he suffered from hard-to-control anger issues, but he learned how to keep those outbursts from causing damage or harming the people around him.

Maybe this guy can learn to control himself, maybe he can't, autism is an extremely broad and varied condition. But either way, it's not unreasonable to keep him in a hospital until he's safe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cured of the desire to commit further crimes. Not cured of autism.

How exactly they'll determine that, I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Will probably wait until they're at least smart enough to lie about not wanting to commit more crimes. Maybe then they'll be mentally fit enough to stand trial, but I'm not sure.