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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 year ago (42 children)

This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (37 children)

But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive

Not defending Meta, just curious

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

this is why

there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge

(edited to include "the blogpost", link here)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Interesting and I'd say you're right. If you were to see a mass adoption of the fediverse (such as Twitter imploding and mastadon becoming the replacement) there would be an immediate attempt by the big tech players to gain control of it in some way. And this is exactly how they would try to do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What’s the alternative? They go with a non activity pub system and woo away all our users anyway?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If people want to crawl back into Meta's clutches I'm not going to stop them. Don't give the one nice thing we have to a corporation that only wants to exploit us.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Are you telling me this perfectly human looking human shouldn't be trusted? Are you telling me this perfectly human looking human shouldn't be trusted?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Who cares? I’d rather they stay away from here anyways.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

realistically, yes :(

opinion time: not everything has to be about fast/unsustainable growth, in the pursuit of profit. i would prefer that the fediverse grows organically, and entices quality users, posters and commenters to join based on the merits of the service, and not on it's access to inflated VC budgets, huge advertising campaigns, and exploitation of a first-mover advantage.

facebook/meta will slay us, because we are a threat to it's profit model. why are we even contemplating negotiations with a tiger while we have our head in it's mouth? it beggars belief...

[–] damnYouSun 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Is there a fediverse version of Facebook?

Very roughly,
Lemmy and Kbin = Reddit
Masterson = Twitter

So what equals Facebook

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Presumably Facebook's move into ActivityPub is to prevent or limit users moving to a decentralised alternative to Facebook?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think Diaspora* is the federated FB alternative

There was also a crypto backed and "freeze peach absolutist" alternative, Minds, dunno how that one's going

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh jeez Someone wanting more free speech than Facebook yikes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Presumably Facebook's move into ActivityPub is to prevent or limit users moving to a decentralised alternative to Facebook?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Diaspora as said was it long ago. Nowadays I guess the Movim project based on xmpp can give and experience similar to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Diaspora as said was it long ago. Nowadays I guess the Movim project based on xmpp can give and experience similar to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Diaspora as said was it long ago. Nowadays I guess the Movim project based on xmpp can give and experience similar to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also here is a blog post about how Google killed the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) using extend, embrace, extinguish.

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