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[–] [email protected] 269 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

“Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.“

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

How the fuck did Harvard students act so stupid and give out their info like that? I thought they were like the smartest people in the US. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Most Harvard students are still just 18-22 year old "kids". Think of how dumb/naive you were at that age.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Try telling that to a 18-22 yr old. You think you know everything at that age. Then you get older and realize no one knows any fucking thing

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

To be fair, when you're at that age and come into contact with dozens of "adults" that never mentally grew past 12, you're bound to think you're "very smart".

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

As a 21 year old I would be offended but then I remember I just admitted my exact age on the internet

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

smartest people in the US

The problem is that that is a very low bar to overcome

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

This is still I think the most telling glimpse into who the "ZUCK" really is. Looking at what meta has become, how it has operated... No matter how professional and respectable he acts.

This is who he really is.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (12 children)

But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive

Not defending Meta, just curious

[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

this is why

there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge

(edited to include "the blogpost", link here)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

Interesting and I'd say you're right. If you were to see a mass adoption of the fediverse (such as Twitter imploding and mastadon becoming the replacement) there would be an immediate attempt by the big tech players to gain control of it in some way. And this is exactly how they would try to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

No. We don't. The more hands they have in the fediverse pie, the more influence they have over it. The more influence they have, the more control. The more control, the more at the whim of their decisions you are. The more at the whim of their decisions, the more power they have over you.

This should be common sense at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Were talking about meta here, this is a bait and switch attempt (I see it that way)

They launch their new twitter competitor, everyone moves over to their new twitter clone, they will try and hold the power on standarts of federation (like any big tech corporation that has a smaller rival that succedes more then them, see microsoft vs netscape for refrence)

If they will fail with that, they will try to seduce lemmy and mastodon instaces with monetization and big money handouts, were talking about facebook here after all, they are not short of scummy tactics

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

Don’t we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

I certainly don't. I abandoned Facebook years ago because of how BS they were getting with privacy concerns and social manipulation. Last thing I want is to bring those dumpster fires here. They join the platform, I will migrate to whichever Instances defed them or leave Lemmy entirely if necessary. Simply put, it's been a breathe of rational, civil air here. While it is early days keeping that hostile-to-humanity crap out of here is obvious minimum we should be doing.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Data this app collects: yes.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

About the only thing the conspiracy theorists were right about is Zuckerberg being a reptilian

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 years ago (1 children)

jUsT gIvE mETa A cHAnCe iN tHe fEdIVeRsE DuRRrrpH

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Meta rolling into the fediverse like the martians in Mars Attacks.

“Don’t run! We’re you’re your friends!”

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, he's a big fan of access. May as well just make an extra category marked "everything".

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's the reason they wanted to make their own phone. They wanted it all

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I believe he actually genuinely does. Want it all. Eventually. Hence the heavy pivot into VR and AR years before its actually practical.

Nobody can dethrone google as the gateway guardians to the internet or apple as the almighty hardware lords, but you can beat them to the next thing, whatever that is.

If you want to be the worlds most powerful company, you gotta aim high.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't that just...everything?

Like is there anything they aren't requesting?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

The user interface to display what is granted by using the app is... so sanitary. It disguises the ultimate goal of these insidious apps in such a clean and sterile list that it really seems innocuous. I wish that A$pple would start to display an intensity of how much data is collected by these apps. Green for good, red for bad, gradient for in-between. Or something... I suppose that accessibility for colorblind is important oto. Then it would be a bit more obvious to users when an app is really out to get them vs trying to improve performance.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Don't forget to report it inside Play Store. All of these permissions are not required, thus the app is breaking store rules.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

Instagram has all the same stuff and it’s been there for years. Bet it’s also the case with Facebook

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I run a pair of PiHole instances for DNS on my home network, and I periodically check the logs and look up blocked domains that I don't recognize. Every single time, it's a service that provides telemetry for mobile apps. It's insane how much data apps try to collect.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (15 children)

I'm asking myself how people can accept these conditions. There is a huge work of education on privacy to be done.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well if you download a Facebook owned app you should expect this.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Why do all of Zucc companies terms and conditions have this air of desperation and grubbiness about them? 😂

No other services feel as slimy even though they're all doing mostly the same things.

Meta feels like you're interacting with a drug addicted stalker following you home

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Zuck wants to know your location

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Zuck wants to know everything 😏

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bet they said something like "we don't use most of that information, we just need access in case we add a new feature in the future that uses it". And then it'll come out that they've always been using it, and it's been associated with your identifying info. And then their server will be hacked (because the admin password was "meta123") and the all the info will leak. The modern internet sucks.

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[–] Lucidlethargy 38 points 2 years ago

Do not trust apps like this. Facebook mined this shit without any warning originally.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

so what is the difference from Spyware and meta's services

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing. As is the case with most social media companies, you are the product. And they do that by spying on you. Same with many other "free" services like, YouTube, email, maps, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What "Other Data"?! Want my fuckin horoscope Zuck? How about the results of my last rectal exam? fuckin hell

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago

It's gratifying seeing this because usually when I see these kinds of worrying data permissions it's because a service I really want or need is being held hostage until I agree to this false choice and I have to start figuring out whether there's some way around this or if I'm going to have to embarrassingly explain to someone why I can't use this service they expected me to sign up to.

But then I see this and it's for something I'd never want to sign up to anyway and it's just like a list of dodged bullets. 😎 So nice to just laugh at their bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the general public was just aware of how much privacy they lose by downloading these apps, companies like Meta would never be able to get away with stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I doubt it. Most of the time when I point out to someone just how much data they're giving up the response is just "so what if a chinese person knows about me"

Privacy for its own sake has lost value with the younger generations. What we really need to do is educate on the consequences and dangers of the lack of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago

It hasn't lost its value. Privacy is still important to them as it always was. It's just been distorted a bit.

Anytime someone acts flippant about privacy, ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Look through all of their messages, emails, photos, etc. See how quickly privacy matters. Tell them to shower with the door open or go to the bathroom while you watch.

Tell them you'll accompany them to their doc appointments.

People want privacy. People need it.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Why does Zuck want to know the browser histories of people on the internet? 😳

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are people really going to sign up for another Meta site? I'm sure as shit not. I finally deleted my Favebook account a couple weeks back, and I'm feelin' free!

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