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I'll go first. Mine is that I can't stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It's like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Saving Private Ryan is a pro-war movie.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Pretty much every American war film is a pro-war movie.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Well if a script uses any military equipment the Pentagon has to sign off on it. Make the military look bad and they're gonna deny your request.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wouldn't say so... The Thin Red Line pretty much bucked the trend.

edit: But I do understand where you are coming from.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's pro war? To me it was the first depiction of the horrors of war. It made me think about my support for armed conflict and ultimately against it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To me it was the first depiction of the horrors of war.

That doesn't necessarily make something pro or anti war.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To me, showing me something horrible is to be against it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All militarists know that war is horror - they relish the horror of it.

That's why they love movies like Saving Private Ryan (which justifies the horror by ascribing justification to it) while disliking movies such as The Thin Red Line or Catch 22 (which strips any kind of justification away from it).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I see your point. I didn't relish the horror. I didn't even understand the horror. When I was growing up, I was taught in a way that minimized or disregarded suffering. SPR did not do that. It showcased it and in a horrendous way. While some may relish in that, I didn't and it made me reconsider my childhood support of any armed conflict as justified. I didn't understand the costs involved. While I'm sure the movie didn't capture everything, what it showed was horrendous.

Idk about your point of justification. It's been a while and I don't remember that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I didn’t relish the horror.

Weaponized masculinity portrays the horrors of war as some kind of "test" of masculinity - you'll see this in a lot of fascist propaganda. It's literally what fascists mean when they spew their "blood and soil" bullcrap. It's pretty sick - I grew up in Apartheid-era South Africa, and they brainwashed us like that.

While I’m sure the movie didn’t capture everything, what it showed was horrendous.

The problem I have with movies like Saving Private Ryan is that they don't address the central conceit of the vast majority of "war media" - ie, that war is an activity primarily waged by armed combatants against other armed combatants. This is absolutely not the truth - wars are primarily waged by armed combatants against unarmed non-combatants. This is especially true when we discuss colonialist warfare - it is being literally demonstrated right now in Gaza.

Idk about your point of justification

You remember Tom Hank's little line about "earning it?" The more you think about it, the sillier it becomes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Same, it was the first war movie I watched where I was like "wow, being in a war would actually really suck".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Only one way to find out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I personally refuse to watch the film again. Not because was bad which it is not, but because it depicts war so graphically I'm opposing war even more since I saw the opening scene.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

depicts war so graphically

Saving Private Ryan doesn't even begin to show the horrors of war. If that's what you want to see, watch Come And See.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, I don't think that I will.