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Threads is making moves for Mastodon integration (www.threads.net)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I have my problems with Meta, but I'm hoping this will help Mastodon grow

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[–] pelespirit 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh there's hate, there are a lot of unreasonably, pro-threads upvotes and comments making the rounds.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out 99% of them were written by ChatGPT or whatever FBs equivalent is.

[–] pelespirit 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There does seem to be some real voices and understanding with some of the comments, so probably a mix of paid and chabot. If chatbot is that good, we are really in some serious trouble.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For 3 to 4 sentences LLMs are indistinguishable from humans.

You don’t start noticing the idiosyncrasies until it gets a bit more repetitive and loses coherence during longer texts.

[–] pelespirit 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's so not good, I hope there are people working on ways to tell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully, researchers are working on ways to detect these subtle differences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's always an arms race, and I fear it's near impossible to detect LLMs from just a few sentences. Longer texts, sure, but how often are the same few words written in a short social media comment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I got Chat-GPT to write that comment as well, just to further prove your point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is it really so bad that people (or rather instances) are allowed to choose who to federate with? Currently instances with spam and other unwanted commenters get constantly defederated with. Threads will just be another one of them, while some people are happy to get more content. Or am I missing something?

Edit: I read your point about EEE and the destruction of the community, but we currently also have multiple communities here on lemmy which are quite extremist and mostly blocked. I'm still not convinced people who currently use the fediverse will switch to Threads. But maybe I'm too optimistic (altough XMPP largely died with Google defederating, other systems like matrix show that there's still demand for federated messaging).

[–] pelespirit 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be clear, I want it to be users deciding on Lemmy too. Also, people already here moving to threads wouldn't be the problem, we're small in comparison to them. It would be a few things:

They would bring in a huge party of users that would take it over and overwhelm the current users. It would be like a cruise ship of tourists taking over a small town and breaking everything for the current residents.
They could post to Lemmy, but we can't really post to Mastodon. They're going to send ads our way disguised as content, guaranteed.
If they can manipulate the users from Mastodon, it's going to get out of hand fast. They have teams of devs and psych engineering to accomplish that.
This is volunteer ran, do we have enough energy to fight Meta when they try to enforce something?
Can they manipulate Activity Pub software because we're a small team of devs? If they can, they will.
One person mentioned them having instance owners sign NDAs. What's up with that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

If they are having instance owners sign NDA's they must have pre-selected who to talk to or only target Mastodon because feddit.de just pre-emptively defederated threads.net after users made the owner aware of the news and it's one of the largest instances (even more so if you go by MAU which is arguably what Meta would be intersted in).