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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sure they have limos. Their limo driver is told, "Meet A at B street and bring them to XXX airport by Y pm."

It would be very unprofessional for the pilot to call the driver at the last minute and say, "Change of plans, now you bring them to ZZZ airport, it's a little further away which means you'll have to leave T minutes sooner". Depending on their schedule, A might not even be able to leave T minutes sooner.

We live in a society where staying on schedule is valued way more than reducing carbon emissions. Another thought experiment: you are 30 minutes late to work. Your boss demands an explanation. You say, "I have a very good explanation, today I decided to bike to work instead of drive". That's probably not going to be good enough. You are expected to emit CO2 whenever it's necessary to stay on schedule.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Once again, this sounds like justifying pollution for the convenience of the rich.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's not just the rich. It's everyone who takes a car to work instead of bike, it's everyone who takes an Uber or even a bus instead of walking a mile, it's everyone who demands that stores open on time and packages are delivered on time.

It's hypocritical to hold Musk to a standard that nobody else meets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

None of those are anywhere near as polluting as jet fuel. Which has lead in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's still justifying pollution for your convenience. And a lot more CO2 has been emitted for the convenience of people who aren't rich.

If you live in the US, you are responsible for 3-10X the emissions of people in other countries. You can't justify that by pointing to Musk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see, so I can't criticize Musk for adding lead to the atmosphere for his personal convenience because I have a carbon footprint.

Logical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Singling someone out for criticism when you do the same is the definition of hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But... I don't do the same. I don't put lead into the atmosphere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You've never flown on a commercial aircraft? Or bought anything that was transported by air?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying those aircraft wouldn't have flown if I didn't specifically do those things? Because otherwise, again, not the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If that's the standard, then Musk is not responsible either. His aircraft would have flown even if he never purchased it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, that's very comparable. 🙄