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[–] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Looking at companies like Blackstone, who buy up houses at auction, lightly flip them and put them back on the market as high-priced rentals. THEY'RE the big reason for the lack of affordable housing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Remember that Blackstone and the other institutions are only financing it. These companies have names; like American Homes/AMH, invitation, opendoor and so on. There are a lot of them and they are all given billions to go buy as many houses as they can get their hands on... essentially bottomless pockets. And those are just the large ones. There's plenty of people churning 100s of homes and letting property management companies do all the work, financing new deals with existing rentals as leverage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Something like 6% of US Homes are owned by Chinese Investors. More than 1 in 20 homes.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I mean, would it be better if we had a thousand mid-sized car dealership style house flippers rather than one singular monolith doing the same thing?

Blackstone agents are operating at a national scale in a market that's been flush with speculators and flippers going straight back to the colonial era. The high price of real estate is the consequence of housing as a commodity. There's no more free land to develop on the cheap and no more suburbs for young people to push out into searching for cheap new constructions. Take everyone at Blackstone out of the market tomorrow and you'll have a hundred smaller banks lining up to repeat their formula by the end of the month.

So long as cash is cheap, housing is in demand, and REITs are a thing, you're going to have businesses looking to profit off the difference between sale rates and rental rates as well as the gap between the prime rate and the going mortgage rate.

[–] WheeGeetheCat 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you just scoff at the idea of competition improving a market?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

One big monopoly looks no different to the consumer than a cartel of mid-sized dealerships. You're not fixing the underlying speculative demand issue, just changing the number of participants in the speculative racket.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes it would be better. Monopolies are bad. Near monopolies are bad. The more market power a company gains the more they can charge for no reason at all except "fuck you pay me".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Monopolies are bad.

Cartels are equally bad. Unless you change the economic incentives in home building and real estate speculation, you are - at best - changing the discrete number of people who get to participate in the profiteering. I don't particularly care if one national guy or fifty state guys get to ratchet up my housing prices. Big Number Goes Up all the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Absolutely. Especially since we just caught them colluding to raise the market price.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The solution is to make hoarding rental properties an unattractive investment. Put an escalating tax on owning multiple residences. If the 5th property is at 40% tax every year it's no longer a money maker in a competitive market. Put the money towards tax rebates for single mortgage interest. Now you have buyers back in the market and landlords looking to sell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Home 1 : 100%

Home2 : 133%

Home 3: 175%

Home 4: 250%

Home 5: 325%

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Excellent suggestion. I don't mind people having a second home or a couple of rentals, but more than that is just greed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Put the money towards tax rebates for single mortgage interest.

Or just use it to construct new multi-family units that are sold at cost of construction.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

There WOULD be more suburbs to develop if we were allowed to work remotely. I would gladly move to the developing suburb of bumfuck-nowheresville if I could go there and keep my job, but I have to stay within a reasonable commuting distance of the nearest metropolis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So why are you advocating for one?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

For the same reasons you are, i guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

So preying on the victims of the growing wealth innequality and income gap. That will surely accelerate the decline of civilization.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Well said, people think that making certain companies go poof will suddenly resolve issues for a long time, without thinking about resource availability, the circumstances which led to the sutuation and the customers who enable them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Which is the exact reason the government is supposed to step in when there's this kind of excess in the sector. Especially regarding a need like housing.