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It isn't about "growing" lemmy. It is about "growing" internet points and communities. People see an opportunity to become the mods they hate (fucking pricks, how dare they ban someone for screaming forty slurs in every single post for six months straight!) while establishing themselves as power users. Because if it worked on reddit, it works on here.
Just block communities and, where possible, instances.
Of all criticism I am hearing, this is by far the most misguided one.
My goal with Communick is to become a mere service provider. I want to do as little as possible with the communities themselves. Sure, I am doing the moderation now because they are not big enough, but if/when they become a real alternative to current subreddits, I hope that the community steps up to govern itself as fast as possible.
If you don't believe me, you can go the matrix channel used by the /r/selfhosted crowd during the protests. I offered them the selfhosted.forum instance for free. They didn't take it.
That is painfully obvious
They are. They just aren't at the site you want their content to be on.
I want the programming communities to be on programming.dev. I want the adult communities to be on lemmynsfw. I want the nix community to be on nix-community. I want the Brazilian communities to be on lemmy.eco.br, like the italians on feddit.it or the Germans on feddit.de...
These communities already have their place, so there is no need to recreate them. But what about the communities that don't?
You are trying to paint my work in the worst possible light, as if I am trying to hijack the networks. Not only that is not true, it is against everything I stand for. And the really funny thing is that I already have written out quite a bit about how my "evil plan" is to get rid of ad-funded internet and that are alternative business models that can be more ethical without trying to capitalize on eyeballs.
A bit of cynicism can be good, just make sure it doesn't become paranoia.
And what you still seem to not understand:
Those communities don't want to be on those domains. So all you are doing is trying to force their hand because you think your desires override their autonomy.
I don't have to "paint (your) work in the worst possible light" because... you are doing that yourself.
Can you honestly say that the communities on reddit are on reddit due to their choice and absolute free will?
I would say that I would rather they make their own decisions rather than someone decide they know better and force their hands.
I too was a libertarian once. Then I grew up.
Into a selfish authoritarian?
Also, I was not aware that not forcing human beings to talk about video games in the space you decided they should makes me a libertarian. I guess I need to rethink my life?
Who is forcing anything, dear Lord?
The spaces are being created because there are no alternatives. If they don't want to use it and decide to love somewhere else, more power to them. Unlike Reddit, I am not able to kick out moderators and keep only those that pledge loyalty to me.
You know what? I think you've made all my points for me, repeatedly. Like, if anything I owe you for making my argument better than I could. So I'll just loop back to
Feel free to continue to reiterate my points for me while pretending you are refuting them.
You highlighting the passage that says the complete opposite of what you are implying shows that you are not interested in honest conversation and just want to confirm your worldview.
Have a good one.
And there are lots that didn't, and these are the ones that I am creating instances/communities for.
It's not just moderators. I'm talking about members of the community who were completely ignored by moderators when asked "can we find a better alternative?"
Saying "they had the option, if they didn't move it's their problem" is incredibly ignorant of power dynamics in asymmetric relationships.