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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Debian guy could have just downloaded the nonfree installer that includes some common wifi and other hardware firmwares. There are some pragmatists at Debian.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also... It's included in all versions starting with Bookworm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well... Say that to my live USB I tried booting off of a machine with a very modern nVidia card. I had to create a new boot entry to disable nouveau and install nVidia proprietary graphics into a persistent partition.

I understand nVidia is shit, and doesn't play nice with others. But my point is - it's not always that easy. (I thought it would be! I lost many hours, and pulled out lots of hair!)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The boot entry is for secure boot. It would be required by any distro not just Debian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It's not related to secure boot (I have that disabled) it's related to nouveu drivers not supporting the 4090 (yet)

[–] _cnt0 9 points 9 months ago

Not in the good old days. Back in 2000something I built a custom installer image with a backported kernel from testing and some firmware to get debian installed on a new laptop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Agree but Debian is still damn manual compared to many Fedora quality of life improvements.

Meanwhile, removing snaps and replacing with flatpaks on a set up ubuntu system is crazy! All those loop mounts suddenly start showing up when snapd is gone

[–] Jumuta 1 points 9 months ago

before debian 12 though, it was kinda hard to find the nonfree netinstaller on their site