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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People in favor of affirmative action in college admissions see things very specifically.

They see that an identifiable group is under represented and they want to ‘fix’ it. Without any idea what the ramifications of their ‘fix’ is.

All they care about is the demographics of whatever it is they are looking at. All they think about is race.

The idea that racism is the way out of racism is simply crazy.

Of course, you have to realize that the definition of racism can change from an outlook of superiority to power + privilege on a whim too

The whole progressive mindset is just fucking evil

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course, you have to realize that the definition of racism can change from an outlook of superiority to power + privilege on a whim too

I'm in my 50s, I don't recall the definition of racism changing at all, much less "on a whim". What are some of the other definitions you have seen arbitrarily assigned to the term racism?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

When you were taught the definition of racism, or when it’s spoken about today (sometimes) it’s a hateful word and a hateful way of thinking about a group of people.

: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

Progressives have since changed that definition to sometimes mean power + privilege = racism. Which is a wildly different thing and is not based on hate at all, but on socio-issues

Prejudice plus power, also known as R = P + P, is a stipulative definition of racism used in the United States, often by white anti-racism activists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice_plus_power

The problems in discussing these things or calling someone ‘racist’ is that these definitions (amongst others) can be used interchangeably, because they are both wildly different definitions of the same word

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The idea that racism is the way out of racism is simply crazy.

See, I find this statement to perfectly summarize the situation, and I do plan on using it myself. I could totally agree with you on your entire post actually except for that last statement which is woefully out of line. I don't understand how you can get the first part of your post so right, but then get the last line of your post so wrong.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I guess considering the last part out of line depends on what your (or my) understanding of the progressive way of thinking and what it’s based on and what it’s goals are.

They’ve done a great job marketing it as ‘just be a nice person’ but that’s not at all what it really is.

I’m sure there are hundreds of millions of well-meaning progressives who believe that. And I’m not trying to insult them.

But people get sold on one thing and end up getting something entirely different all of the time. It’s sad, but that’s the way things are, unfortunately.

I’m not saying the opposite of progressivism is the answer here either, what I would advocate is common sense.

If you need a PhD and peer reviewed sociology papers to try to convince someone that something as egregious as race-based college admissions is a good thing, you’re pretty obviously the baddie and common sense should tell us that you’re trying to convince us of something for a different reason.