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You mean like with abortion policy, or gun policy, or made up culture war bullshit, or the fascism?
The abortion policy I agree with
The gun policies are fine. What do you think is wrong with the gun policies? I carry a gun daily. I carry an assault rifle in my trunk. That is my right and is needed with the violent democrats.
Whether you agree with policy is independent of whether or not it is bad strategy.
All you're saying here is that you agree with shooting yourself in your foot.
It's actually republicans that make up the larger share of domestic terrorism. Your fears are misplaced.
Most criminals are democrats. Summer of love killed over two dozen people.
Democrat cities have the highest murder rates.
Most prisoners are democrats.
So what issues do you find with the firearms laws?
Looks like you didn't do your homework, because you're either lying or hopelessly misinformed.
Domestic terrorism:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/far-right-violence-a-growing-threat-and-law-enforcements-top-domestic-terrorism-concern
City/state level:
https://www.salon.com/2023/02/15/like-to-talk-tough-on--but-theyre-the-ones-with-a-real-problem/
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/30/murder-rates-democrat-republican-states-gun-control
https://www.planetizen.com/blogs/122113-red-cities-blue-cities-and-crime
Prison:
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2020/aug/1/survey-8000-prisoners-political-views-finds-surprising-results/
You also need to learn a thing or two about the difference between correlation and causation.
I have done my homework. I am not sure why you are citing so many things irrelevant to the conversation.
Domestic terrorism has little to do with the many democrats in prison.
The red states' murder problem are in gasp democrat-run cities.
Look at the top cities for murder rate and only 1 is a republican led city.
Now what is relevant is more criminals are democrats.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-7-in-10-felons-register-as-democrats
Maybe you should stay on topic and do some homework.
All of these things I've cited are in fact revelant to which side is more violent.
But it does have to do with which side is more violent.
You're so close to understanding. Try just a little bit harder.
Perhaps, maybe, just maybe being surrounded by red could have an impact on cities. It's almost like cities have limited options when the red state they are in actively makes it impossible to handle crime.
Keep up claiming that correlation is causation and you'll stay just as misinformed as you are right now.
Correlation does not imply causation.
Correlation does not imply causation.
And I already addressed this, and with a more factual, less biased news source:
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2020/aug/1/survey-8000-prisoners-political-views-finds-surprising-results/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/prison-legal-news-pln-bias/
And not only that, but post-prison reporting is by far the worst version of these stats to pull, as it only makes the problem of correlation/causation worse.
Has it ever occurred to you that post prison, they might register democrat because democrats are the only ones advocating for prisoners to be treated humanely? Whereas republicans are glad to treat people as animals. You're not looking at the right data.
It isn’t relevant as it has nothing to do with what was stated. It’s word vomit.
The cities are responsible for their own crime. People are not driving from the burbs to shoot people in the city.
You haven’t addressed anything. You’ve created a weird straw man argument that has nothing to do with what I said. It’s the typically liberal skrill.
As I cited most felons are democrats. It’s a well known fact.
You literally said "That is my right and is needed with the violent democrats."
The topic is the violence of each group. Therefore right wing domestic terrorism (which is larger than left wing domestic terrorism) is therefore relevant.
Cities do not exist in a vacuum. It is not a closed system.
I never said otherwise. My point is that guns being easily accessible in rural regions makes guns easily accessible in urban regions. Cities do not exist in a vacuum, and gun law can generally only ever be as strong as the weakest nearby region.
And on top of that, correlation does not imply causation. So simply stating "democrat cities violent" doesn't tell you jack shit. You need to be looking at the actual causes, and political leanings ain't it.
Now you're just burying your head in the sand. I gave you a better source than your own, from actual prisoners instead of ex prisoners. You're well known fact is complete horseshit. The biggest political group in prison is republicans.
Yes, and your response was just word vomit.
It tells you a lot. I avoid Democrat cities for that reason. I don't need the added crime and violence in my life. Move to a Republican area and you don't have to deal with such things.
The well known fact is true. More felons are democrats. You have yet to prove it false. You just threw word vomit talking about everything but the fact that democrats are more prone to criminal behavior.
This is just word vomit.
This is also just word vomit.
Then you didn't read the above links.
Yes, I read your irrelevant links. That is how I knew they were irrelevant.
Maybe you should take some time to focus and have a point rather than just word-vomiting the party line.
It is well-known democrats are more prone to mental illness and violence. Why do you think that is?
You very clearly did not.
It is pretty clear. Not sure why you are having an issue reading it.
It is actually republicans, not democrats that have that problem.
Cite where conservatives are more prone to mental illness. You’re obviously acting in bad faith because no study has ever shown that to be true
The last time I did cite a source you just ignored it, so what's the point?
You have to cite something relevant. You can’t cite random word vomit.
It was pretty clear. Not sure why you are having an issue reading it.
Keep trolling.
Nice loaded question you got there.
How dare they directly address the biggest issues with the party
some of the issues with the party. The list is pretty much never ending.
It's an open ended question. Do you not have an answer?
It implies things are true. Its a basic manipulation tactic.
I mean all of the things I listed are some of the reasons why so many people vote against republicans. It is in fact all true.
But I was wondering if there was a particular reason you thought so.
You're arguing in bad faith. I'm not going to anwser such an obvious loaded question.
No, I am genuinely wondering how you of all people think the republican party is failing.