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Update…Per Microsoft’s instructions, disabled all tracking protections in Safari and requested desktop mode and it works. Their instructions say turn protections back on after using teams… 😐
Funny enough it works in Safari and not Edge…tho that may be Apple’s fault since all browsers are somewhat just versions of Safari, last I heard…
I just dont understand how any company can use a product as broken as teams.
It comes with the Office subscription. People who choose it are not the ones using it daily.
My company's IT department tried to push Teams since we pay for it either way. The rest of the company revolted and stayed on Slack.
I've been in an interview and the hiring manager wanted to have a call in Teams. Didn't take that job.
Yup the people who chose it get celebrated for cutting hundreds of dollars per user per year for another product.
This fucking mentality. "Let's use this thing that's free instead of paying 50 dollars/month, the people who have to work with this can get their asses fucked!"
The business/work version of Teams isn't free, you're paying for it as part of the 365 subscription.
That's part of why there's a push to use Teams: companies see it as already paying for it, so might as well use it.
And of course there's the constant barrage of fear mongering coming out of the security crowd that says the only sensible, secure thing to do is bring absolutely every fucking thing into a native 365 app. Because they fail to notice that the attack surface they're so concerned about is a healthy software market.
Oh, didn't know that thanks! My comment is just school IT trauma lol.
Fuck you spez
To be fair, slack price can reach up to thousands per month for very big companies.
That being said, teams is a ridiculous piece of software that is indeed broken.
Yeah but very big companies should expect to spend thousands per months supporting their team
It doesn’t even make sense in terms of numbers. If you’re paying people six figure salaries, that means they’re earning your company seven figures easy. If you increase the productivity of a person bringing in seven figures by 1%, that’s $10k minimum.
And yet they want to save like $13 per year to use a product that might cut their productivity by 5%
It comes with office for free. That's how.
Now imagine being a freelance developer, who works for more than two clients, using Teams with different email addresses.
It's a horror!
I'm not a huge fan of Teams, as it lacks critical features that alternatives have. But I've never experienced anything that would make me say it's broken. What exactly are you referring to?
If you do a lot of B2B interaction as a guest tenant you cannot switch tenants without Teams being rendered inoperable.
Once you switch the client will continue to crash with the only recourse being to close the client and erase it's cache manually.
It's beyond annoying.
Most recently with the update to add "Teams Classic" as the package name. Now, then coming out of suspend, the client will randomly just be a white window, while still functioning as if it isn't, so you accidentally click the white box and start calls. This also forces you to force close teams and reopen it.
Yes, Teams 2.0 is available on enterprise, however some enterprises are annoying about updates and will sit on the upgrade for several years.
Well, it’s not broken today but an update will break it tomorrow…guaranteed.
How about the fact it’s the only web all I have ever used that requires you to manually refresh it sometimes.
Like, it stops everything to show you a message saying “Please refresh my page thx”
If you aren't part of an organization, and need to join another groups team temporarily, its a complete clusterfuck. I'm not sure what exactly they are doing with cookies, but if you have to work with multiple teams, its shocking how bad it is.
Also, the chat/ zoom feature for video conferencing; I've never had it 'just work'. There is always someone who has an issue getting it to function correctly. It regularly drops video or audio or both. I'm like, actually shocked that a company like MS can't make basic functional software.
I can field this. The answer is simple: they don't. They use Slack internally.
I use teams for work and have not had a single problem in the almost three years I’ve been with the company. We have teams phones and pretty much all teams licensing. I’ve had lots of problems with zoom and go to meeting. Especially with GoToMeeting when I was managing a citrix environment.
Using Teams at first I was annoyed it didn’t have some zoom features like video backgrounds or whatever…but after using it quite a while I do like it better. The problem for me is you never know what update is going to break something whenever updates are forced…for office and all of the other work software.
I don't think that was the question.
Which alternative do you propose?
Literally anything else except for zoom and teams.
I dont have issues with zoom. Its the least bad of all the VC services.
Really? I’d take Google’s offering or Teams over Zoom, especially if there’s a screen share involved
Zoom requires the zoom app and has lots of security holes
Are you talking specifically on phones? Because it works just find in browser on desktop.
Its been a while so maybe its changed since I used it. Before it was desktop only
Ok. At least it works. I can't say that for MS.
Literally anything else is a better option. Slack + zoom is orders of magnitude better.
I use teams very actively; we don't have slack and I hate emails.
Honestly can't remember last time I've had any issues.
The app integration is awesome. It allows me to give non-technical people access to everything project related through a chat group.
15 pinned convo limit is nonsense though.
Also would like to just be able to paste markdown straight in.