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[–] sugar_in_your_tea 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I think both kinda suck, so I'm making my own that's completely distributed instead of federated. That way hosting costs are near zero (just need some P2P nodes and a download server) and scaling to higher user counts should be automatic if I build it right.

The problem is that building it right is hard, and I don't have a ton of time.

[–] PutangInaMo 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You got more details? Is it up on github?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Not yet, but I'll definitely post something when I get to a point where I'm ready to share the code. I definitely want it to be open source, I just want enough functionality there so the long term vision is clear.

But here's some details of what I'm trying to achieve:

  • web of trust-based moderation - no "mods," only metadata from people you trust (upvotes, downvotes, blocks, etc)
  • all storage on devices of users of the service - the more storage you provide, the better your experience; your preferred communities have first priority, but everyone stores something random from the service
  • text posts only, at least to start - images/videos need to be hosted elsewhere

I'm building it initially as a desktop app, but I'll port it later to mobile and maybe web (still trying to figure out how web would work; maybe some notion of instances?).

I'm hoping to bridge to lemmy with an ActivityPub service to get content, but I'm not working on that until the above is ready.

[–] PutangInaMo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Web of trust sounds interesting. What language(s) are you using to build it?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rust on backend, React frontend.

[–] PutangInaMo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds efficient. Lmk if/ when you make the repo public.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 1 year ago

Sure thing. I'll probably make a post about it once I nail down the functionality and start looking for people to help out with UX and features and whatnot.

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