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“First and foremost, we need to sort out the matter of the hostages, to swap them with the terrorists that are here [referring to Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, not all of whom were involved in militant activities]; it’s just explosive material to hold them in prison. After that, we need to sit down and negotiate a peace agreement,” Pauker said. As he spoke, the sounds of explosions from Israel’s airstrikes on Gaza could be heard in the background.

“I have good friends from across the border [in Gaza], but I can’t meet them, and they can’t meet me. They used to come to my house. I spoke to them on Saturday. They are human beings. They have bad leaders, like us. We can throw away the leaders on both sides and make peace in a matter of minutes.”

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One man's terrorist yadda yadda. No. These guys fucking suxk. They aren't fighting for Palestine any more than isis fought for Iraq. Israel's bullshit certainly explains why hamas has a lot of Palestinian support; they have no other option, but don't pretend they aren't terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you be a bit more precise? What makes them terrorists?

From what I understand, rebelling against an oppressor (as a last resort) is a U.N. recognized human right.

[–] C0unterfactual 8 points 1 year ago

Aiming guns at soft targets and slaughtering them makes them, by definition, terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBF Hamas is definitely a terrorist organization, especially with the murder of civilians on October 7. They're fighting Israeli oppression, but calling them not terrorists would be like calling the IRA in the Troubles not terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This recap of Oct 7 makes it seem like most of the deaths were against police/military. Many of the civilians deaths, especially at the rave, are reportedly from indiscriminate IDF fire.

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/what-really-happened-on-7th-october