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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, so both should be illegal. We should be celebrating one injustice being corrected with this decision, while also pushing for more systemic issues to be corrected next.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a bad take.

Racial admissions existed to counter the other injustice - an imperfect solution to the inherent racism of legacy admissions.

Now that affirmative action has ended, the injustice of legacy admissions has been made even worse. Racism is now the law.

And it will never end.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Racism is now the law.

So we need laws to not be racist? This is an insanely pessimistic take that nothing has improved the issue of racism in the US.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not pessimistic - it's simply an honest understanding of how white supremacism is fundamental to the US. To be clear, things like affirmative action didn't really improve things all that much - it was a band-aid on a traumatic amputation - but it was at least something.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was a good band-aid for the time because racism was a massive problem back then, though, I sincerely doubt it's needed today. I'm not saying racism isn't a problem today, but the idea that universities must be regulated for them to accept non-white applications ignores the strides we've taken as a society. We don't need the band-aid anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US is as fundamentally white supremacist today as it was way back then - if you need reminding, just think back to 2016 when more than half of all white people in the US voted a KKK-approved colostomy bag full of tanning lotion into the Waffle House. Or you could just take a look at who the main victims of the carceral slavery system are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US is as fundamentally white supremacist today as it was way back then

Segregation; lynchings; slavery; these are all things that were systematically outlawed and struck down in our society today. To say that white supremacy is just as bad as it was in 1960 is an utterly blind take and completely ignores what we've accomplished today. It's still a problem today, yes. But if what we're complaining about is a spray-tanned muppet who is now being legally shredded apart, I think we've come a long way.

Stating purely that over half of white people voting for the clown is also ignoring the other half who did not- or the intentions of the half who did vote for him. I highly doubt that a majority of the half who did vote for him were crossing their fingers for the next racial uprising.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Segregation; lynchings; slavery; these are all things that were systematically outlawed and struck down in our society today.

Segregation in the US is alive and well. We watch cops lynching black people on tv all the damn time, and slavery is literally enshrined in the constitution.

It’s still a problem today, yes.

It's not a problem - it's a feature of a fundamentally white supremacist society.

a spray-tanned muppet

A spray-tanned muppet that was enthusiastically endorsed into the Waffle House by the majority of white USians while he was hurling around white supremacist dog-whistles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its very easy to forget, but theres a difference between the majority of Americans and the majority of American voters... it was more like 15% of the country that voted for him and of that 15% about 60% were white, 40% nonwhite. so it's more in the range of 5-10 percent of the US population that you're misrepresenting as a majority white supremacist sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To be clear the Supreme Courts decision here is a regulation on the universities. Not a removal of regulations.

Affirmative action was an option that institutions could choose if they thought was appropriate... schools that used to ban POC wanted to accept disproportionately more of them. Now that option has been regulated away.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

So we need laws to not be racist?

Ask me how I know you're white lol

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

You are correct here, why would we not celebrate this just because there are more issues that need corrected?