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Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).

It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.

My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you're not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.

I've linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325

Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.

https://lemmy.world/post/747912

https://lemmy.world/post/577526

Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.

Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.

TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.

EDIT: To clarify, this isn't the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.

EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.

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[–] FlagonOfMe 13 points 1 year ago

Spend an hour over there. That what I just did. It's a public website. Look at the front page. It's all alt-right, transphobic, antivax posts. All of it. I saw at least 8 posts celebrating the SCOTUS ruling to end to affirmative action in higher education. That's an interesting topic to discuss, but holy shit did they make it seem like a "white victory" party.

Notice I didn't say Nazi. People use that term colloquially to mean bigots and white nationalists. Don't get hung up on people calling other people Nazis.

I want to defederate them specifically because they are Trump-supporting, alt-right bigots. Not because they're "Nazis".

The admin married a black girl, and he had gay friends growing up, so he's clearly not a bigot, right? And yet when poked, he spat out an enormous list of the most tired Fox News talking points like blaming Biden for gas prices and anti-trans fearmongering. There were so many. Nonsense that's easily debunked. He's overly concerned with "sexual perversion", and he's just the kind of person I would never want to hang out with.

And he runs the whole place! What "concrete examples" do you need? Do you really think bigotry is going to get downvoted over there?

(For the record, I'm not a Biden supporter. I'm just pointing out you can't blame a US president for a global price increase.)