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I think you're giving MAGA too much credit. With them the protest is usually "the point". They don't expect to win or even capitalize on any gains. They just want to pitch a fit and get popularity for it. Their constituents aren't concerned with results only bitching.
This is literally what project 2025 mentions. I think you’re underestimating the desire fascists have to rule this country
I'm pretty sick of people throwing the word "fascist" around - but regardless here we are...
It's difficult to square that with how ineffective Trump actually was as president. Almost none of what he wanted to happen did happen. He could barely get a wall built that actually had strong support in his own party which controlled both branches at the time.
So is "Tuberville" a political genius working toward a greater goal? Or is he a blowhard scoring cheap political points by "fighting woke"? I dunno - maybe you're right but I lean a bit more on the side of incompetence for now.
"Fascist" is absolutely an appropriate label for the modern GOP.
Per Umberto Eco's 14 points of ur-fascism:
Sure sure. The fact that it's related to Hitler and Mussolini has nothing at all to do with it.
If the GOP doesn't want to be compared to Hitler then they should stop acting like him.
The problem is that when you compare everything to Hitler then it doesn't much weight when Hitler appears before you.
Liberals are calling f'ing everything fascism now. It's become the left's "woke" in that it labels everything they don't like.
Apart from some people getting confused, it's Republicans who are calling everything fascist. Liberals for the most part are calling fascist things fascist, while people like Marjorie Greene are calling anything they don't like fascist.
I missed where those points talked about Hitler or Mussolini.
Do you want to provide a definition of fascism if you find Eco's inadequate? I'm sure you've done a lot more research into this than he did when he wrote the book.
Or is your objection based more on vibes than reality?
Nudge nudge wink wink - we're not comparing anyone to Hitler just fascism - that's "COMPLETELY DIFFERENT(tm)".
My objection is to the over-use of "fascism" for everything liberals don't like. MAGA is a dangerous beast and has strong authoritarian leanings but it's not fascism. It can get worse. Much worse. Calling it fascism now is hyperbole that won't be taken seriously by people who aren't already in your circle-jerk.
So even though it fits the definition it isn't fascism because it hurts people's feelings.
Boo fuckin' hoo.
It doesn't meet the definition. MAGA is heavily influenced by fundamentalism. Where is that in Fascism?
Having similarities doesn't make them the same.
The very first one?
You still haven't made any sort of point.
There is a definition, and it applies. It's unclear why you disagree.
Definitions are useful to describe what people are talking about. They are not magical rules which speak things into existence.
Where is christian fundamentalism in that definition of "fascism"? Or un-regulated capitalism / corporatism?
There are similarities between MAGA and fascism but there are things that are quite different as well.