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[–] goat -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] WheeGeetheCat 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thats why they get the good stuff. Gotta keep the leaders honest with a few riots and manure deliveries to their homes.

[–] surfcocktailsynth 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd use a past tense here. Recent (20y) riots have not stopped the recent governments from trying to kill the french supportive state.

[–] winterayars 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They haven't stopped it YET. The unrest is ongoing.

[–] surfcocktailsynth 1 points 1 year ago

Public services have been crapified for 20 years. The whole retirement age? The money put aside for the boomer retirement transition was used for corporate subsidies. The money saved by making the poorer work longer is less than tax breaks given to the top deciles. Each time a public service earns money it is given to friends (Vinci is a big one) in the private market. High value medical acts are moved to private hospitals who don't offer the lower value ones. Parking spaces, highways, state lottery... All given away. Capped electricity contract is being shut down slowly as EDF is being forced to sell energy at loss to pseudo competitors that only sell it at market price to the same customers. Government employees (except for the top one of course) have had their pay stalled for 15(?) Years leading to a current crisis where only the worst want to work as teachers, police etc.

And the last riot is "only" a George Floyd moment, not the first, against a police which has become more violent for 20 years, 7/10 of which votes for a fascist party (literally founded by a former Waffen SS), that cover their tracks by issuing false reports and having an audit service which is internal only.

So... Hopefully the trend will reverse but the outlook for France is currently bleak.

For more data on police killings:

https://bastamag.net/webdocs/police/

[–] goat 2 points 1 year ago
[–] CookieJarObserver 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Varyk 16 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Lower taxes, subsidies, avoiding government prices hikes, public policy regarding police action - all sorts of things - this article explains it pretty well

https://time.com/5476534/french-protests-successful-macron/?amp=true

[–] CookieJarObserver 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have the same stuff in Germany without burning shit down...

[–] Varyk 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually:

June 4th, 2023, 300 Germans set fire to police barricades and attacked Leipzig police officers. The rioters were protesting jail sentences for people who attacked neo-nazis.

Source:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/04/europe/leipzig-germany-lina-e-far-left-protest-intl/index.html

These are protests to breaches by authority against standing political, social and economic infrastructure rather than the infrastructure itself you are referring to; that infrastructure is as in place in France as it is in Germany.

[–] CookieJarObserver 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't said we don't have such things at all, we have much much less.

[–] Varyk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You said "We have the same stuff in Germany without burning shit down..."

The article I replied with references Germans "burning shit down" this month to effect change.

[–] CookieJarObserver 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me not even having known it should already tell you that its absolutely irrelevant...

But yes it does happen, but way less than in france, its basically a joke in france nowadays and fucks them up economically.

[–] Djeece 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, "The Economy", the favorite catch all of politicians.

I don't know about you, but from here it looks like it's going to go to shit whether we burn stuff or not.

[–] CookieJarObserver -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, your Youth unemployment rate is enormous and in general your unemployment rate is high.

Here in Germany things actually get better because we work on the problems and not blame everything on the police, politicians or minoritys... (at least not anymore gladly) there are some idiot that don't, but most just do their jobs and it gets better again.

And the economy is the thing making shure you have a phone, something to wear and something to eat...

[–] Djeece 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not French, btw.

But here in Canada, where the unemployment rate is at an all-time low, I can tell you we're not out of the woods yet. My work is somewhat affected by the state of the economy and this year it's been really slow. No one is investing because of uncertainty and high interest rates.

The economy is about to go to shits, and it's not like we riot nearly enough lol

The real problem is the lack of accountability of politicians. They're the only ones with any power to do anything, and they're just making things worse. They stoke fear in people and sell us out to corporations, and no one cares to do anything about it. That's why people respect the French, they at least TRY to do something about it.

[–] CookieJarObserver -1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a muricaland problem.

French are constantly rioting and its nothing but a joke nowadays.

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[–] MomoTimeToDie -3 points 1 year ago

Lmao what? France gets the good stuff?

[–] Citronnier 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] goat 4 points 1 year ago

Oh I think it's a wonderful thing!

[–] Varyk 4 points 1 year ago

Ha, yea, they know how to riot there