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I feel like your characterization of Reddit users as long-winded and contrarian is inaccurate and frankly offensive. Let me write you several paragraphs about why you’re wrong, sprinkled with thinly veiled personal insults and outright harsh commentary about you as a person.
Sorry, just trying to make it feel like our old home :)
Lmao this was good. You forgot to comb through my post history to see if you can make your comment even more hard-hitting by referencing a personal problem I have that was highlighted in a post or comment from 6 months ago 🤪
They're here. I got banned from no stupid questions for asking in the comments why an incredibly small group of people gets to define how I use language.
What’s the context? Sounds vague.
If I remember correctly I was arguing that "gender assigned at birth" already had a word for it and it was sex. Somebody asked about intersex people. I said I didn't see the point in altering my language for such a vanishingly small group. Then a week later the powermod decided to look through my comments and came to the conclusion that I was breaking "rule 7" which is some vague shit about being nice or something. That was one of the things that made me abandon lemmy.world. Old reddit mindset. I left reddit 8 years ago because of that crap and never went back.
I say powermod because they have a over a dozen subs started basically all mirroring reddit ones.
Ya you absolutely deserved to catch flack for that.
You are saying that gender is the same as sex and they’re categorically different things. It’s very easy to learn the difference so if you insist on arguing against facts, you’re damn right people are going to butt against you.
You’re arguing against treating people with kindness by pointing to the fact that they’re a minority. Lmao that’s the definition of a bigot.
If I'm having a conversation with an intersex person that actually cares, which with their prevalence I doubt it will ever happen, I will respect them. Why should I have to change the language I use outside of such a rare situation? We have terms like Biological Sex which mean something, and then we have bullshit like "gender assigned at birth" which on purpose mean nothing. Stop trying to make language intentionally tiring.
You did it again.
Just because someone got born with X plumbing and everyone just assumed they would feel like X gender since birth, does not mean they will. That's what "gender assigned at birth" means: an uninformed assumption.
It looks like you agree with me. You basically have the right terminology for sex, so why should we have a second term to use instead?
People who care about the difference between some things, tend to use different terms for them. Insisting on disregarding what they consider important, tends to make them feel insulted, which in this online setting, currently translates to getting blocked, reported, banned, or defederated.
‘Gender assigned at birth’ is a field in most electronic health care records for real healthcare based reasons. It means very specific things and is called out separately from legal sex and genetic info for real life-altering reaons. The vocabulary exists for far more serious reasons than to annoy you online. Frankly, it’s not even about you.
Please explain to me how gender assigned at birth is different from sex. Aside from the extremely rare intersex cases where it may have been mistaken they should be the same. Gender is your expression, but sex is genetic.
I completely agree with you. Now defend your point, which I've definitely attacked by replying. 🤺
You had me in the first ~half~ sentence.