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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

cats and dogs matter, but cows, chickens, lambs, sheep, pigs etc don't matter. Yep. Makes sense :/

They all have the same capacity to suffer. So why look after some animals but not others?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From a pure practical standpoint, it doesn't make sense to eat carnivores. Terrible feed conversion. We don't want to raise meat to feed it to meat. Traditionally, ruminants were a way of converting inedible grass into nutritious meat and dairy.

Also, carnivores are a lot harder to handle... They bite! Cats jump and dogs dig. I farm. The livestock stay inside the fence, cats and dogs go where they please.

The animals in your first list are carnivores (cats are an obligate carnivore) while the second list are herbivores or omnivores that do well on a vegetarian diet. That's why we eat the second list and not the first.

Also humans like dogs, they're a lot like us despite being a smelly 4-legged bitey critter. It's quite odd, really. We've evolved together for millennia at this point. More so than any other species on earth, dogs have a place in our society alongside humans, with their own jobs and skill sets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I lived in a few places in China for a year. This is either new, or completely fake. If cats and dogs were sold/eaten for food they would be in the market next to the turtles, above the fish tanks, and under the pigeons. Not a joke.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My bullshit detector is going off hard over this article, and I'm a vegetarian. With those disclaimers out of the way, if you think the suffering of a cat and cow are equal, and accept that some people are going to eat meat, you get a hell of a lot more meat out of a cow than a cat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But cat is cheaper. It grows for free in the city.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The cow is perfect if you're running a farm.

A cat is perfect if you're trying to save some money on meat and you don't have to raise it, just catch it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Indian city cows grow for free too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eating someones pet is different than eating an animal being raised to be eaten. For starters you have to kidnap the pet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

how is it different? They all have the same capacity to suffer. They're all living, breathing beings. They all experience pain and suffering. How's it different?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In this case we're talking literal stolen pets though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They all have the same capacity to suffer.

why should that matter?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because appealing to and manipulating your emotions is the only way that fella can alter your behavior in the way they see fit.

They don't approve of your autonomy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Spoken like a sociopath.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what about the autonomy of the animals we keep locked up on farms?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well I just talked with a farm chicken and they seemed okay with it. Have you bothered to ask these animals how they feel about it or are you just projecting your own values onto them?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've personally been to factory farms. The animals are far from okay with it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I am a factory farm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The animal kidnapping. It directly hurts the owner. A farmer doesn't really get sad when the lambs go to slaughter.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right ? I should be allowed to abuse and manipule people freely if I label them as "Slave" !

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Okay. That's just a really bad argument. Stealling someones cat and killing the cat is bad. You directly hurt the owner and the animal.