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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What would happen if Hamas started launching attacks against Israel from Egyptian soil?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Then Egypt needs to eliminate the threat of Hamas in their country.

Oh - that's not possible without collateral damage since the absolute love using civilians as human shields? Better not take them in and let Israel take the blame...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd hope Egypt would then work together with Israel on disarming Hamas on Egyptian soil.

[–] can 0 points 10 months ago

By bombing Egyptian soil?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Are you saying they shouldn't take in refugees just in case Hamas attacks from Egypt because it might result in an Israeli response? Because you could make that same argument about Ukrainians fleeing to Poland. They might secretly be backing Russia. What if they launch attacks against Ukraine from Polish soil?

EDIT: I'm sorry, you can downvote me all you like, but this is a bullshit excuse to stop taking in people who are facing a genocide. Egypt sees a genocide happening on their border and, instead of letting refugees in, they say, "why can't Europe take care of it?" I'm sorry, it's bullshit. They're complicit in this genocide. They aren't the cause- the cause is Israel- but they're complicit. They're letting Gazans die.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Alright, let me ask this question. Why does Hamas exist in Palestine? Did Palestine take any steps to remove or eliminate Hamas before this war broke out?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What relevance does that have to Egypt refusing to help refugees fleeing from a genocide? Should no one take in Gazan refugees?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because if the government of Palestine and the people of Palestine were willingly housing a known terrorist organization, I might be hesitant to let them through my country as well.

Or would you let Russians from either the occupied Luhansk or Donetsk oblast stay with you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well it's either be terrified of letting terrorists into your country or be complicit in a genocide. Personally, I would say 'don't be complicit in genocide.' You apparently would say the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because it’s so simple for you eh? You are a disingenuous, bad faith actor. You know as well as I do that you would never allow your family or friends to be put at risk for either Israel or Gaza, so stop acting like you have the high moral ground here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely would put my family at risk to help stop a genocide. How is Hamas going to even attack Israel? With what weapons? Do you think they would be allowed to bring missiles across the border with them? Do you think they would just let everyone run through without stopping them at checkpoints?

Again, it's either be afraid of a hypothetical terrorist attack or help stop an actual genocide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Then stop armchair arguing with me on a website and go fucking help them, and take your wife and kids while you’re at it.

My god the people on this website who think they’d be so much better at things than elected officials or trained servicemembers or ems is astounding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How would you advise I do that?

[–] can 4 points 10 months ago

Why does Hamas exist in Palestine?

At least partially because Israel saw it as beneficial.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Did Palestine take any steps to remove or eliminate Hamas before this war broke out?

With, let me guess, weapons Israel gave them to do it?

Seriously how do you expect people to get rid of a theocratic dictatorship, without external help, in the situation that Gaza is in.