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[–] bufordt 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Earth and human.

The high rate comes from estimating the number of miscarriages that happen in the first 6 weeks, often before someone knows they are pregnant and the miscarriage is dismissed as a heavy or late period.

The traditional miscarriage stat comes from only looking at known pregnancies, and even it is likely higher than most people realize.

Regardless which stat you use, miscarriages are way more common than most people think.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I see so mothers of age 20-30yrs in Germany have same chance of miscarriage as 50-60 years olds North Korean mothers, that is 75%. Since evidently demographics doesn't matter.

Now seriously, why i asked that: No source stated. Every age, country etc has this ratio different. Some countries have problem due to late pregnancies (35+yrs) due their culture. Other have trouble because of malnutrition. Some have better conditions.

So before i take number as fact and start to spread it as such, i want to know it's a fact or at least narrow it down to the demographics and possibly the source.

Otherwise tomorrow there will be new expert say it's actually 1% or 99% and according to this logic we would have to update our knowledge every-time.

[–] bufordt 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You missed the whole point. We don't have good statistics from miscarriages, because everyone counts the numbers differently, and when you add in the fact that some people don't really realize they've had a miscarriage, you have a very nebulous stat.

The point is that certainly miscarriages are more common than most people think, and likely even more common than that.

My comment was not to prove that their stat was correct, but to explain why the stat varies so much. Your comment about demographics, although I'm sure it was meant innocently, can be taken as looking to blame a certain demographic for doing something wrong that causes their miscarriage numbers to be higher.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I have not disproved the part that say unknown percentage of miscarriages takes place. It's logical.

However if someone places exact number, it should be based on aomething. If the number has no base, as such it has no value l, at least for me.

As for second part about hatespeech accusations.
I don't see how statistics can blame someone for doing something wrong .
To me the logic is vise versa. If some demographic group is not doing so well or is doing very well. It will be reflected in statistics if measured. If given source stats can be compared and differences in measurement methods reduced or highlighted.