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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

While I don't condone DDoS attacks, the only reason for D4 to be online-only is monetization IMO: Blizzard wants to sell cosmetics, so people have to see other people wearing them. There is little gameplay benefit from being an MMO-lite.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably all sorts of datamining regarding the way people play also. Can't do that so easily if people are playing offline.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Brilliant insight. They probably are tracking metrics on what will encourage people to buy stuff the most too

[–] themoonisacheese 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Activision owns patents on the following:

  • A system that tracks what store items you might be interested in, and places you in matches with high-skilled players who own that item, making you associate the item with high skill

  • A system that places you against lower-skilled opponents immediately after you bought an item, making you associate making a purchase with being better.

From here to "they want you to look at other players and how expensive their shit is" is only one step. Honestly at this point I'm even surprised they're not faking it entirely, making other players just happen to be wearing expensive skins on your screen even if the actual account hasn't bought that. It's not like you can check anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bloody hell this is some nefarious brain hacking type stuff.

[–] themoonisacheese 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed. It also has the inherent side effect of making the game pay to win, because if you don't pay you get put in hard matches against the skilled people who paid, and if you do it puts you against weaker opponents. This is why micro transactions should be banned straight up, even if they do not impact gameplay. Belgium had the right idea.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I experienced this first hand playing wow. The team will straight up send out email surveys asking if players would be willing to pay x for y service with different people getting different prices. They calculate these things to extract as much money from the dedicated fans as possible. I went back to playing the private servers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Probably looking at the wardrobe to see what people like looks-wise with what's in-game already. Then ensure they push more of that into the store.

Never open the store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I came to the same conclusion as you: why would people buy their stuff if they could just run an unlocker script or edit a config file to give that stuff to them? It's basically malicious DRM

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

All DRM is malicious, and DRM is why not to buy. Plenty of other games that you can buy and also own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Potentially unpopular opinion, I like running into random other players in the world, particularly when doing events. I don't give a fuck about Blizzard's cosmetics and, frankly, unless I'm examining people, I can't even tell what they're wearing half the time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And you should have the option to do so.

But that doesn't mean other people shouldn't have the option to play offline if they so choose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is little gameplay benefit from being an MMO-lite.

There would be benefit to it if they embraced it. I'm convinced they wanted for it to be more of an MMO-lite but got cold feet and played it safe, as with everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This one is hard for me to have an opinion on.

Loot rolls need to be controlled by the server, or else people will just exploit all that stuff.

Diablo doesn't have a lot of mechanics that really need players to interact with each other, but games like that and WOW are entirely based around gear grind. All accomplishment requires players to have a level playing field or players just won't want to play. It's just wierd like that.

If people want an offline game, they should buy an offline game. It's not that smart to buy an always-online game and then complain about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know anything about the most recent games, but if it's anything like D1 and D2, a huge part of the game is single player. So what if someone wants to cheat their way through the game? It's not affecting other players and you get to enjoy the game the way you want to.