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Referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect in casual contexts. Most people who refer to it, have not really read about it enough to be qualified to use it.
I mean, you can sum it up in a sentence. Is it really that complex?
"People with poor knowledge, experience or skill in an area tend to overestimate their ability in that area."
Is your beef that people tend to conflate lack of skill or knowledge with low intelligence, which is not what the DK effect says?
"Mount Stupid" vs everyone thinking they're above average
I'm assuming they get told they suffer from DK a lot haha
Your summary is correct. However, most people use the Dunning-Kruger effect to describe individuals with low intelligence as arrogant. Another issue is that most people as soon as they learn about the effect think that they’ve become immune to it.
All it does for me is double down the imposter-syndrome.
I'm not good at this... People keep hiring me, maybe I'm alright at it. Dunning-Kuger is a thing, maybe my "people keep hiring me" ego is making me blind.
And yet, every day I do cool things, I learn new cool things, I redo old things with my new knowledge
But still... I'm just pretending
Eh its a meme at this point. Everyone knows to what you're referring and recognises the shared experience of overconfident stupid people. Everyone educated on the topic understands that it's a pop psychological misrepresentation of some very interesting work.
I notice it's prevalent in populations that have had an excess of a certain type of "executive" education. Whether they are poorly educated or not... I leave to the reader.
The irony of this is that those who aren’t “educated on the topic” do not realize that by describing the Dunning-Kruger effect as the law of “overconfident stupid people”, they themselves have become subjects of the effect.
What I was trying to say is that the Dunning-Kruger effect being misrepresented as something that only applies to “stupid people” is often done by people who are themselves undereducated on its topic. The DK effect applies to everybody.